Player Discussion Neal Pionk

Discussion in 'New York Rangers' started by nevesis, Feb 8, 2018.

  1. Rangers in 7

    Rangers in 7 Registered User

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 2015
    Messages:
    1,892
    Likes Received:
    512
    Trophy Points:
    94
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    NYC
    holy moly @The Mouth take a chill pill...the whole team has been horrible and pionk has been the least of our problems on the back end
     
  2. gorangers0525

    gorangers0525 Registered User

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    2,263
    Likes Received:
    142
    Trophy Points:
    66
    Please stop comparing this guy to stralman, Pionk’s been a meh defender on the worst defensive team in the NHL. Certainly has some skill but has far from put it all together.
     
  3. JohnC

    JohnC Registered User

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2013
    Messages:
    6,615
    Likes Received:
    356
    Trophy Points:
    94
    Location:
    New York
    Honestly can you link me to your radio show
     
    Dactyl, Miamipuck and Thirty One like this.
  4. YearOfTheCat

    YearOfTheCat Registered User

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2006
    Messages:
    6,293
    Likes Received:
    1,097
    Trophy Points:
    139
    Gender:
    Female
    Occupation:
    Copy editor
    Location:
    Virginia
    I don't think anyone really expects any D man to put it all together in his first year in the league, he only came up about, what, a month ago, maybe 3 months tops?
     
  5. jas

    jas Unsatisfied

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2002
    Messages:
    19,837
    Likes Received:
    2,248
    Trophy Points:
    231
    Location:
    NJ
    Do you also like walking into walls?
     
  6. nyr2k2

    nyr2k2 Can't Beat Him

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2005
    Messages:
    30,815
    Likes Received:
    2,587
    Trophy Points:
    187
    Location:
    Maryland
    Awards:
    Eddie Geek, a caricature of a real person playing a caricature of a real person.
     
  7. eco's bones

    eco's bones Registered User

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2005
    Messages:
    18,594
    Likes Received:
    1,605
    Trophy Points:
    169
    Location:
    Elmira NY
    Pionk's a first year pro. He's done pretty damn well. Not a lock but I think he'll contend for full time next year. Actually like him better than DeAngelo right now.
     
    Matz03, Ori and kovazub94 like this.
  8. darko

    darko Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 16, 2009
    Messages:
    61,798
    Likes Received:
    2,299
    Trophy Points:
    157

    Sounds like you have a pretty good scam going on. Best of luck.
     
  9. Machinehead

    Machinehead Ronald 7:4

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2011
    Messages:
    80,866
    Likes Received:
    8,954
    Trophy Points:
    156
    Occupation:
    Professor
    Location:
    NYC
    I love how Pionk has horrendous analytics and we still get blamed for people hyping him up.
     
    romba and haveandare like this.
  10. Hunter Gathers

    Hunter Gathers White guilt milquetoast piece of human garbage. Sponsor

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2002
    Messages:
    108,519
    Likes Received:
    5,046
    Trophy Points:
    231
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Corporate Drone
    Location:
    NJ/NYC
    So corny.
     
  11. shinchanuuhh

    shinchanuuhh Registered User

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2013
    Messages:
    3,986
    Likes Received:
    436
    Trophy Points:
    94
    Occupation:
    Normandy
    Location:
    Here
    Wait...you sound like you're implying that you called that and no one else did...but every1 was livid at that pick so y on earth would you bring that up in this context?

    Also it seems like you're looking for an example of how you know more than everyone...you had to reach back 8 YEARS and use an example where there was an almost universal consensus? If this is how you talk about hockey on your show it must suck. Does the name of your patreon donor say "mom" or "gam gam"?
     
    nyr2k2 and Miamipuck like this.
  12. Kovalev27

    Kovalev27 BEST IN THE WORLD

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2004
    Messages:
    7,224
    Likes Received:
    1,527
    Trophy Points:
    139
    Location:
    NYC
    I said this a week or so ago but I just dont' see it. the kid had a great game against Vancouver but otherwise he's not good. he bleeds shots against. he fights hard but he is very small for the game he plays. he's only 22 so he's got some time to develop but I don't see it. maybe a 6 or 7? some steve kampfer in him? next year smith will be back I fully expect that along with shattenkirk. rangers will have to pick between Gilmour and pionk is what I'm guessing as hajek probably needs a year In the minors.

    skjei deangelo
    staal shattenkirk
    smith Gilmour/pionk

    now hajek could surprise us and make the team. that would push smith back to the right side and both Gilmour and pionk out maybe smith moves back to play with skjei. regardless the lack of a top d pairing will be our biggest weakness for a while. I think skjei could be a number 2 dman I do. but we certainly don't have a 1. and you need one to win a Cup. where that guy comes from I don't know. one of my biggest concerns with dealing mcdonagh is guys like him don't grow on trees.
     
  13. Mac n Gs

    Mac n Gs Gorton plz

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2014
    Messages:
    17,032
    Likes Received:
    3,177
    Trophy Points:
    141
    Y'all are reading way too much into a small sample size when he's playing on the worst team in hockey at the moment. He's a 22 year old kid that went from college, 50 games of AHL experience, and now top-4 responsibilities. This is also the most hockey he's ever played in a year. If he starts being so poor next year, then we can complain.
     
  14. Igor Shestyorkin

    Igor Shestyorkin Banish AV to the phantom zone.

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2015
    Messages:
    10,343
    Likes Received:
    252
    Trophy Points:
    109
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Stopping Pucks
    Location:
    Moscow, RUS
    Pionk could not shine Stralman's shoes right now, that's for certain(yes, rookie, yadda yadda yadda), and I feel like it's a safe bet that he will never be on Stralman's level. Some are definitely going over the top in this thread.
     
    The Mouth likes this.
  15. Thirty One

    Thirty One Safe is safe.

    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2003
    Messages:
    20,323
    Likes Received:
    2,552
    Trophy Points:
    186
    Occupation:
    Counting
    Neal Pee-onk
     
    The Mouth likes this.
  16. Son of Petter

    Son of Petter Who wants to walk with Elias?

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2013
    Messages:
    318
    Likes Received:
    80
    Trophy Points:
    51
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Kanata
    Hey guys noticed that this kid has 6 apples in his first 16 NHL games playing over 20 mins a game with an even +-, but this thread doesn’t seem stoked on him. What gives? What’s his long term upside?
     
  17. Fitzy Duke of NY

    Fitzy Duke of NY Very Stable Genius

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2009
    Messages:
    22,210
    Likes Received:
    947
    Trophy Points:
    139
    I'd say his upside is as a #4 jitterbug. 2nd PK unit, 2nd PP unit.

    More realistically he can be a decent bottom pairing guy. I think if NYR flesh out the D core a bit he and Staal would make an okay 3rd pairing moving forward. Anything more than that from them and they'll have problems.

    The whole defense has looked awful, Pionk I think is the one young guy on the roster right now that will do just fine in a sheltered role next year.
     
  18. Edge

    Edge Kris King's Ghost

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2002
    Messages:
    18,935
    Likes Received:
    4,945
    Trophy Points:
    231
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Amish Paradise
    God help this board when even more young talent comes up and goes through the refinement process.
     
    belford222, darko, haveandare and 3 others like this.
  19. Matz03

    Matz03 Registered User

    Joined:
    May 5, 2015
    Messages:
    964
    Likes Received:
    61
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Location:
    Boulder, CO
    What has ADA done to put himself ahead of Pionk or even Gilmour? Do you judge your D based on how many spinorama's a D can pull off? If so remember Pionk also has Tony beat on the most memorable one of those. Pionk is given the harder defensive minutes, he's paired with Staal, and he's outproducing ADA who's getting pp time and much more ozone draws. You mention the great game from Pionk in Vancouver, could you reference a great game by Ada? I'd like to go back a rewatch one of those, cause I don't recall any yet. ADA still has as much to prove as any of the young D and he's no longer the only young D with NHL playing time so he won't get the benefit again. So if anything Ada, Pionk, Gilmour and maybe one of the surprises at camp like Hajek will have to earn that spot if Smith, Shatty, Staal and Skjei are the first 4.
     
    Pavel Buchnevich likes this.
  20. Ori

    Ori Registered User

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2014
    Messages:
    8,149
    Likes Received:
    1,084
    Trophy Points:
    94
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Norway
    It`s based on raw talent and draft position @Matz03 - I don`t mind to ship DeAngelo as soon as possible when he is healthy in the summer window. :)
     
  21. mrjimmyg89

    mrjimmyg89 Registered User

    Joined:
    May 1, 2010
    Messages:
    4,656
    Likes Received:
    397
    Trophy Points:
    94
    Gender:
    Male
    If he is in every game here on out, he's at 76 games this season between the AHL/NHL. Blows away anything he did in college. He's been fine, especially being thrown into the fire. Probably should still be in the AHL at this point.

    Look forward to see him come into camp refreshed and having a better idea of what to expect with the number of games he has to play.
     
    Son of Petter and nyr2k2 like this.
  22. Go Away Staal

    Go Away Staal #tradezucc

    Joined:
    May 27, 2008
    Messages:
    10,538
    Likes Received:
    3,490
    Trophy Points:
    187
    Occupation:
    Ayatollah of Pylons
    Location:
    Tank Nation
    Sup?
     
    UnSandvich, darko, Bozle and 9 others like this.
  23. Zats Muccarello

    Zats Muccarello Grinder

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2010
    Messages:
    827
    Likes Received:
    126
    Trophy Points:
    61
    Location:
    NYC
    He played a fantastic game tonight. He seems to be getting better and better as the games go on which is great, I definitely see him in our lineup next season.
     
  24. LionsHeart

    LionsHeart Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2009
    Messages:
    2,647
    Likes Received:
    54
    Trophy Points:
    71
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Queens, NY
    He had a really strong game tonight. That sequence against Letang was really impressive. Showed a lot of poise and good skating ability.

    This idea that rookies aren't allowed to come up and struggle is ridiculous. This team is going to be rebuilding, get used to it. They're going to make their mistakes and have their struggles.
     
  25. GAGLine

    GAGLine Registered User Sponsor

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2007
    Messages:
    12,847
    Likes Received:
    1,103
    Trophy Points:
    170
    He played 26 minutes tonight.
     
    DanishRanger, Mac n Gs, Ola and 5 others like this.

Share This Page

monitoring_string = "358c248ada348a047a4b9bb27a146148"