Discussion in 'Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk' started by GeauxPreds1, Jun 14, 2018.
Ryan Ellis, Kyle Turris and Craig Smith for Noah Hanifin and Elias Lindholm.
So you want CAR to take on almost 13M in salary for 2 RFA's?
I’d imagine if Carolina trades those two players they’re looking for younger guys.
Also, Ellis is a UFA next summer, and I don’t think Carolina would be confident they can sign him to an extension
Imagine Nashville in 2 years trying to protect the whole lineup for the expansion
Not commenting on value of the proposal as the players from NSH are clearly better right now than the players from Carolina. I just don't see Carolina taking on that much salary / future salary at this juncture, especially with 2 of the players being UFAs in 1-2 years. If Carolina was a team that was flush with cash, maybe something like this would be doable. Of course, if Carolina was a team that was flush with cash, they probably wouldn't have the cap space to make a deal like this.
This solves zero of Carolina's current issues (#1C/#1G) and gives away two of their biggest trading chips. I wouldn't trade either Hanifin or Lindholm alone for this package without Ellis committing to a reasonable extension (at which point Nashville would just re-sign him). It is just antithetical to what the Canes need to be trading for.
Eh Turris attempts to solve the #1C, though he's ideally a #2, but yeah, not a fan of trading Hanifin for this same way I'm not a fan of trading him for O'Reilly, yet alone throwing in Lindholm as well.
Seems like if Carolina wanted to pry Turris out of Nashville it would cost something more along the lines of Faulk. Not sure why they would be interested in a 29 year old, $6 million 50-55 point C though. Could probably get Brassard out of Pittsburgh for much cheaper (and personally I like Brassard's game more). If Hanifin + Lindholm are headed the other way then a stud, young #1C need to be headed back.
Pretty bad for Nashville. They lose the two best players in this deal. Easy no for both teams imo.
No, solely on the basis of you including the "h" and not going with NASCAR.
No, based on age and where the Canes are in their rebuild. Canes would be trading players that at the start of next season will be 21 and 24 years old for players who will be 27, 29, and 29. If things go as planned I see the Canes making the playoffs next season but taking a couple more years beyond that before becoming a legit Cup challenger. And 2 to 3 years out, when we have (hopefully) hit a "sweet spot", a trade like this would likely hurt our chances more than help them.
Preds say thanks but no thanks.
This makes Nashville a worse team. We lose a top pairing RHD defenseman, a no.2 center and a top 6 winger and only bring back a top 4 LHD and a top 6 winger/center. We're essentially giving away a free 20goal 50 point player while our window for the cup is as wide as it's going to be.
Yeah, your window is now, when your guys would help you the most, ours is a couple of years down the road, where our guys would likely help us the most.
Would you do it if we signed Tavares?
Yep, i think this is one of those where the value may be close but ultimately bad for both teams
If we signed Tavares I'd move Turris/Bonino, but I wouldn't trade Ellis.