Video My kid had his first hockey fight. Proud or Unnerved? (Video page 2)

Bryanbryoil

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He is going to go on ice with a former professional this off-season and get on ice training in case he has to do it again.

Good call for his safety. I wish him all the best going forward, you should be very proud of the young man that you have raised. Gotta love team and family oriented individuals.
 

amj h

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Proud.

Tell your kid to do 1000 push ups and 1000 squats once a week. Don't work out the day after.

In a year he'll have a punch like a mule kick and a slapshot like Chara.
 

tarheelhockey

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Unstaged fights are part of hockey, I've stuck up for guys on my team that I didn't even like.

I would expand this and say unstaged fights are part of contact sports in general. It's not uncommon in any environment. I've seen guys fight during a YMCA pickup basketball game. During amateur football practice. Certainly during men's league hockey.

It's not something to encourage for frivolous reasons, but at the same time every sport has lines that aren't to be crossed. If you're not willing to draw that line at all, participating in these sports at a competitive level probably isn't for you.
 

varano

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I would expand this and say unstaged fights are part of contact sports in general. It's not uncommon in any environment. I've seen guys fight during a YMCA pickup basketball game. During amateur football practice. Certainly during men's league hockey.

It's not something to encourage for frivolous reasons, but at the same time every sport has lines that aren't to be crossed. If you're not willing to draw that line at all, participating in these sports at a competitive level probably isn't for you.
At the end of the day, you always have the choice to fight or not.

I've been challenged in mens league and just walk away while my team gets a power play. You ALWAYS have the choice.
 

tarheelhockey

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At the end of the day, you always have the choice to fight or not.

I've been challenged in mens league and just walk away while my team gets a power play. You ALWAYS have the choice.

Of course you have the choice. Nobody can make you do anything. If you choose to fight, or if you choose not to, you accept the consequences of that choice.

I assume you've been challenged for a reason.
 

varano

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Of course you have the choice. Nobody can make you do anything. If you choose to fight, or if you choose not to, you accept the consequences of that choice.

I assume you've been challenged for a reason.
Sure, Because a bigger guy than me didn't like that I kept tying up his stick in front of the net. If he felt that was fight worthy, thats his fault.
 

sandysan

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At the end of the day, you always have the choice to fight or not.

I've been challenged in mens league and just walk away while my team gets a power play. You ALWAYS have the choice.

sure if a guy runs your goalie you absolutely have it within your prerogative to choose to be a crappy teammate and do nothing about it. but let's say you run the goalie and then decide that all things being equal you would prefer to not have to fight. Your reticence might be noted but it need not be respected, nor should it.

Who HASN'T been challenged at one point in their careers ? A guy who wants to fight because you tied up his stick sounds like a real piece of work.
 

Slats432

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At the end of the day, you always have the choice to fight or not.

I've been challenged in mens league and just walk away while my team gets a power play. You ALWAYS have the choice.
I am not sure that men's league and Junior/Midget AAA are the same thing. If you play a high level there may be somewhat of an expectation to defend your teammates. I don't think that same code applies to non-contact men's rec league.
 

sandysan

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I am not sure that men's league and Junior/Midget AAA are the same thing. If you play a high level there may be somewhat of an expectation to defend your teammates. I don't think that same code applies to non-contact men's rec league.
A good teammate is a good teammate independent of the league he plays in.

That being said you can play in men's leagues for long time and never have to fight. But somethings that happen on the ice the expectation is that you stick your nose in there. No one wants to see. Guy's fight in men's leagues but if it's the choice between a fight and. Guys playing loose with their sticks or seeking retribution at the end of it a fight is preferable 10 times out of 10.

No one consents to getting sticked or run. In the numbers.
 

Slats432

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A good teammate is a good teammate independent of the league he plays in.

That being said you can play in men's leagues for long time and never have to fight. But somethings that happen on the ice the expectation is that you stick your nose in there. No one wants to see. Guy's fight in men's leagues but if it's the choice between a fight and. Guys playing loose with their sticks or seeking retribution at the end of it a fight is preferable 10 times out of 10.

No one consents to getting sticked or run. In the numbers.
Not sure the comparison to men's league is relevant to the thread. Not that I want to start a fight. :laugh:
 

PWiz30

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You should be proud AND unnerved, but mostly proud. Good job by your kid and people who tell you otherwise aren't worth worrying about. They don't get it and likely never will.
 

Slats432

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You should be proud AND unnerved, but mostly proud. Good job by your kid and people who tell you otherwise aren't worth worrying about. They don't get it and likely never will.
Sounds like you get it. Watching the guys in the 70s and 80s, I loved the pugilism. Guys like Wendel Clark, Clark Gilles, Cam Neely. It is through different eyes when you don't want one of the guys to get hurt. :)
 
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PWiz30

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Sounds like you get it. Watching the guys in the 70s and 80s, I loved the pugilism. Guys like Wendel Clark, Clark Gilles, Cam Neely. It is through different eyes when you don't want one of the guys to get hurt. :)

I was born in 88 so I only remember watching two of those guys and at the tail end of their careers at that. But if you grow up around the game you know.
 

Filthy Dangles

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Wow fighting an older guy in a camp at 16? It will impress the coaches that he is willing to do so and make him stand out for sure.
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skacore

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Good for your son, and he did well in the bout!

I'm sure he knows but in this next level of hockey through 16-20 he will be targetted a lot for being a bigger guy, every one wants to show they can fight the biggest guy. Just make sure he knows just because of his size he isn't obligated to accept fights from everyone who comes at him.
 

Crosbyfan

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I would be a little concerned that if he gets good at it, the fighting, he might feel obligated, or be made to feel obligated, to do it more than he really should (everyone would have a different definition of that point).
Hopefully he gets to focus on the more skilled and smarts parts of the game (not that fighting doesn't take either, but it is not why we play) and as a big guy gets to grow into that big physique that may even still be growing.
 
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Burke the Legend

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fighting happens in beer leagues for much stupider reasons, with grown ass working men going bonkers. It's not something that's great but it's definitely part of the sport at all levels with its brew of competition, team comraderie and physicality. It's mostly harmless though and not worth getting so excited about (both the anti-fighting lobbyists who need a better hobby and the weird people who hang around websites dedicated to fights).
 
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HerculePoirot

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Yes, be proud! Any team would love to have a guy like that. And don't just get him to improve on the fighting aspect but also on tieing up the opposing player when need be to end a fight (which I'm sure an ex-pro would teach, hopefully).
 

stu the grim reaper

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I'd be more interested to know if he's proud of himself or unnerved. 16 year olds are still basically children in a lot of cognitive ways. It's easy for us to speculate/project about why or what it felt like. But he's playing at a really high level, so I agree that it doesn't really matter if he wants to or not--this is what you both signed up for. There's going to be overwhelming pressure for him to fight if not regularly, then at least to prove his willingness. In the end, every sports career is a race against time, and every time someone has their first fisticuffs, the clock has just started ticking for him to reach the success they want before wear and tear catches up like it does to all contact sports athletes.
 

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