Weight is more relevant than height.Oh good, on top of all knowing aspiring GM you are also a mind reader. No backtrack, simply a mislead most people assume with the original comment.
The correlation I was curious for was not in the ability of the player compared to the size of the fan as you pointed out but the mentality of the fan to demand size in their favorite team's roster. You're the one that has drawn an arbitrary line (6'3" if I recall correctly/feel free to correct me/it's somewhere in the "Do the Habs need an Enforcer" thread).
If you are a smaller team and try to run through a larger team then that is one thing (MT has the wrong system currently) but we were even smaller under JM (with no enforcer) and yet managed a run in the playoffs under a system that suited our players better and didn't put them in position to have to run literally through the opposition. Team systems should suit the team that is using it.
Would it be great to have a team of big talented players? Sure. (especially if MT is here for the long run) But the way you and the rest of the "Get Bigger" party make is sound as if these players are a dime a dozen and every team is just looking to get rid of big and talented players. Sometimes you just have to compromise somewhere in the middle to players that are at least willing to be physical even if they have to work harder at it. Especially, as it is in this case, that one of the players Weaver is possibly going to replace is the ultimate case of size for the sake of size in Murray. I won't defend Gionta or DD (neither belong to MB) but a signing like Briere is an example of poor market and having to settle for talent even if the size may be missing as Clowe and Clarkson were the only 2 big names with some talent and neither were worth the price that was set forth.
If you haven't noticed we are on the same side of the need more toughness argument. (Although I don't include fighting into the argument and it sounds like you do) However, I'm not willing to dismiss a more talented player with toughness simply for his size especially when his larger counterpart lacks almost all talent.
You also pointed to Tinordi as a great example of size and talent and I agree but how many players are there similar to Tinordi in the league and would any of them have a reasonable price tag for us to get? (That's if their GM is even willing to move them at all)
Well I'm pretty sure someone that has a MBA from the crappiest school can still understand that building a cup winning team would generate a crap load more cash over a longer period than sitting on his ass and being content with a team just making the POs and not competing much in them.
Let's not freaking exaggerate here.
Weight is more relevant than height.
I don't believe I was advocating for a team where everyone was over 6' 3". If I said that, I was either sarcastic or drunk.
What part of my statement equates with exaggeration? Parse it again. You don't learn critical thinking in MBA school (there are a few in my family; I weighed my options in my twenties and went technical instead, culminating in a PhD). You pretty much just put in the time, and you get the degree at the end. Molson got to where he is because of birthright. It's really that simple.
Dudley knows Weaver better than anyone from his time in Atlanta....obviously he likes him. I'd class this as a 'Dudley deal".
Molson wouldn't be in business if he didn't understand that building this team into a cup contender and winner would be more fruitful to him than being complacent at just making the POs. As much as people may dislike him, you aren't running a multi-million company by being a dumbass.
I say ******** to that statement. Molson is in the beer business and the Habs are his cash cow. This team has been making the same mistakes over and over again for a very long time. Aside from the years when Gillet was owner, what's the common denominator here? Either the owners of this team keep hiring idiots for GM's or the owner is getting involved. Instead of rebuilding properly they just do enough to get into the playoffs. A proper rebuild would cost money and the Bell might not be sold out every night. That is why we have a mediocre team.
Anyone who thinks a pro-sports owner doesn't want to win a championship is delusional.
I will bet that when the habs win their next cup, Gary Bettman will introduce the captain and one of the first people it gets passed off to is Geoff Molson. One of the first interviews they do will probably be Geoff Molson. Think of any stanley cup, super bowl, NBA final or world series that you've watched and how often do they show the owner during the celebration? or celebrating with their family when a nice play is made, especially in the final few games? They're pretty dominant and central figures.
Winning a championship puts more attention on them, their team and anything really associated with them. How many knew Mike Illitch owned Little Caesars Pizza? I certainly didn't and wouldn't had Detroit not won their cups in my lifetime.
More eye-balls means more exposure, means more $$
Anyone who thinks a pro-sports owner doesn't want to win a championship is delusional.
I will bet that when the habs win their next cup, Gary Bettman will introduce the captain and one of the first people it gets passed off to is Geoff Molson. One of the first interviews they do will probably be Geoff Molson. Think of any stanley cup, super bowl, NBA final or world series that you've watched and how often do they show the owner during the celebration? or celebrating with their family when a nice play is made, especially in the final few games? They're pretty dominant and central figures.
Winning a championship puts more attention on them, their team and anything really associated with them. How many knew Mike Illitch owned Little Caesars Pizza? I certainly didn't and wouldn't had Detroit not won their cups in my lifetime.
More eye-balls means more exposure, means more $$
Weight is more relevant than height.
I don't believe I was advocating for a team where everyone was over 6' 3". If I said that, I was either sarcastic or drunk.
Anyone who thinks a pro-sports owner doesn't want to win a championship is delusional.
I will bet that when the habs win their next cup, Gary Bettman will introduce the captain and one of the first people it gets passed off to is Geoff Molson. One of the first interviews they do will probably be Geoff Molson. Think of any stanley cup, super bowl, NBA final or world series that you've watched and how often do they show the owner during the celebration? or celebrating with their family when a nice play is made, especially in the final few games? They're pretty dominant and central figures.
Winning a championship puts more attention on them, their team and anything really associated with them. How many knew Mike Illitch owned Little Caesars Pizza? I certainly didn't and wouldn't had Detroit not won their cups in my lifetime.
More eye-balls means more exposure, means more $$
I say ******** to that statement. Molson is in the beer business and the Habs are his cash cow. This team has been making the same mistakes over and over again for a very long time. Aside from the years when Gillet was owner, what's the common denominator here? Either the owners of this team keep hiring idiots for GM's or the owner is getting involved. Instead of rebuilding properly they just do enough to get into the playoffs. A proper rebuild would cost money and the Bell might not be sold out every night. That is why we have a mediocre team.
Not saying he doesn't want a winner I was saying he doesn't want to rebuild properly. This building on the fly while the team is trying to make the playoffs every season at the same time just isn't working. Not to mention the fact that we haven't had a decent GM since Serge Savard makes me wonder about the past owners of this team including Molson and what the hell they're doing. There's been alot of questionable decisions when it comes to player and personnel management and Molson is to be held in part responsible.
not really, it's the reach that is important, watching the game last night thru the neutral zone people just step around guys like DD he can't reach their stick with his
Not saying he doesn't want a winner I was saying he doesn't want to rebuild properly. This building on the fly while the team is trying to make the playoffs every season at the same time just isn't working. Not to mention the fact that we haven't had a decent GM since Serge Savard makes me wonder about the past owners of this team including Molson and what the hell they're doing. There's been alot of questionable decisions when it comes to player and personnel management and Molson is to be held in part responsible.
DD's twig is very short
His shtick is not big enough to play in this league?
Not saying he doesn't want a winner I was saying he doesn't want to rebuild properly. This building on the fly while the team is trying to make the playoffs every season at the same time just isn't working. Not to mention the fact that we haven't had a decent GM since Serge Savard makes me wonder about the past owners of this team including Molson and what the hell they're doing. There's been alot of questionable decisions when it comes to player and personnel management and Molson is to be held in part responsible.
Jeffrey Loria
Not saying it's common but it does happen. I'm also not saying it applies to Molson as I was only targeting that particular sentence.
Bergevin is like that guy in the poker game who continually bets the same amount every time. Every. Damn. Time.
When in doubt, acquire depth defender. The depth defender is the key to success.
#becauseitsthecup
Didn't Loria buy the Marlins and win a Championship like the year after?
Does not pack big lumber ¯\(°_o)/¯