Confirmed with Link: [MTL/BUF] Beaulieu to BUF for 3rd (Part II)

yoteshot

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I thought he'd be better than this. Three points in 20 games? They've finally limited his TOI to 7:46 on Dec. 2nd, only had 9 shifts.

Come on, I'm happy about the return (early 3rd rounder) now that I see how Beaulieu struggles... but he left that game with an injury and hasn't played since.
 

Mike Mike Caron

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Can't believe Pierre McGuirre said he could be in a top-4 à la Nashville (he litteraly said that many times on Melnyk). I was wondering if he had ever seen Beaulieu play in the NHL.
 

LaP

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The whole Buffalo team is a complete mess right now. Eichel has only 23 points in 30 games. Outside of Kane pretty much nobody is having a good season. Ristolainen has 1 point less than Jordie Benn while being 1000 times better than him offensively. Something is very wrong with that team.
 

The Great Weal

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Don't blame the team, Beaulieu just sucks as a hockey player. He'd easily clear waivers if it wasn't for his skating. I've wanted him gone for a very long time, and I wish we traded him sooner.
 
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CauZuki

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Don't blame the team, Beaulieu just sucks as a hockey player. He'd easily clear waivers if it wasn't for his skating. I've wanted him gone for a very long time, and I wish we traded him sooner.

We are talking about an environment where Ristolainen looks mediocre and Eichel is no where to be seen. No exactly an ideal situation , I am far from a blind Beaulieu supporter , he had many flaws that stopped him from becoming a top 4D. It's naive to think he would be able to transform into that in Buffalo , they are essentially Edmonton 2.0.
 

Wats

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Major victory for Bergevin. Schlemko is a better bottom pairing D than Beaulieu.
 

Frank Drebin

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We are talking about an environment where Ristolainen looks mediocre and Eichel is no where to be seen. No exactly an ideal situation , I am far from a blind Beaulieu supporter , he had many flaws that stopped him from becoming a top 4D. It's naive to think he would be able to transform into that in Buffalo , they are essentially Edmonton 2.0.
Good point, and nice to see some consistency across the board as this is the explanation on why the Sergachev trade is looking so bad for us right now.
 

1909

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The problem is that Beaulieu played and produced like a Nhl player last year.

Buffalo is the biggest mess in the league too


So, you're telling us that a players' surrounding is impacting on his overall production ?

So, we can conclude that Drouin would be a top-ten in points in the NHL, IF he would still be in TB !... And Sergachev would have a handful of points in Montreal.
 
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CauZuki

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So, you're telling us that a players' surrounding is impacting on his overall production ?

So, we can conclude that Drouin would be a top-ten in points in the NHL, IF he would still be in TB !... And Sergachev would have a handful of points in Montreal.

This is possible , environment matters immensily , it's certainly impossible to predict what a traded player would do in his previous environment but one can gather an idea.
While also noting that not having a good environment isn't an excuse to trade talented prospects for mediocre value.
 

1909

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This is possible , environment matters immensily , it's certainly impossible to predict what a traded player would do in his previous environment but one can gather an idea.
While also noting that not having a good environment isn't an excuse to trade talented prospects for mediocre value.[/QUOTE]

Drouin is not "mediocre value"... Just a kid who was injured or sick for many too many games this year, and was put in a no win situation by being placed as a #1 centerman while he was far from it.
 

CauZuki

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Yeah it's not like other teams managed to trade their blue chip D into a much better forward version.

Larsson got Hall
Jones got Johansen.
 

Mrb1p

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So, you're telling us that a players' surrounding is impacting on his overall production ?

So, we can conclude that Drouin would be a top-ten in points in the NHL, IF he would still be in TB !... And Sergachev would have a handful of points in Montreal.

Drouin sux though. While Beaulieu is dumb as a rock, at least hes not lazy and unimplicated.
 

1909

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Drouin sux though. While Beaulieu is dumb as a rock, at least hes not lazy and unimplicated.

Drouin is playing hurt since a while. If you cannot understand that, what can I do.
 

Whitesnake

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Problem wasn't trading Beaulieu when we did. Problem was trading a 1st rounder as late as they did, making damn sure by all their actions and words that the guy would have as low a value as he had. THAT was the problem with Beaulieu. Part of the lack of vision they have.
 

PsychoticHab

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Problem wasn't trading Beaulieu when we did. Problem was trading a 1st rounder as late as they did, making damn sure by all their actions and words that the guy would have as low a value as he had. THAT was the problem with Beaulieu. Part of the lack of vision they have.

Which is the surprising part because with the amount of times that MT reprimanded NB, you would have thought that the Habs would have "cut their losses" sooner for that reason alone. (Character players and all that)
 

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