Most defensive leauges in CHL

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  1. STA

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    WHL: 3.06 goals for per team per game

    OHL: 3.55 goals for per team per game

    QMJHL: 3.62 goals for per team per game

    So why do you guys think that there are never these guys from the WHL getting these huge point totals in the hundred, like Sam Ganger or Pat Kane?

    Because it's a more defensive league or because they don't have the talent?
     
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    More defensive for sure. How many defencemen got chosen in the 1st round from the WHL?

    The Q and the OHL for sure produce better offensive players. (Crosby, Richards, Thornton, Savard, etc.)

    The WHL for sure produces better defencemen. (Niedermayer, Phaneuf, McCabe, Bouwmeester, etc.)

    But all leagues have thier fair share with both forwards and defencemen.
    (Iginla, Doan, Hartnell, Pronger, Boucher, Beauchemin)

    But WHL produces better goaltenders. With the exeption of Luongo and Brodeur from the Q. ;)
     
  3. Novak Djokovic

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    Yes, WHL is defensive just like West in NHL.....

    Zach Hamill got 93 points in WHL and if it was OHL, He would have gotten about 125 points (Estimated)

    And his team's coach likes to play 1-0 games.....

    Just an example...
     
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    I agree except for the fact of your point on goalies...

    There are far more QMJHL goaltenders in the NHL than WHL...

    Anaheim - Giguere - QMJHL
    Atlantic - Lehtonen - Europe
    Boston - Thomas - NCAA
    Buffalo - Miller - NCAA
    Calgary - Kipprusoff - Europe
    Carolina - Ward - WHL
    Chicago - Khabibulin - Europe
    Colorado - Budaj - OHL
    Columbus - Leclaire - QMJHL
    Dallas - Turco - NCAA
    Detroit - Hasek - Europe
    Edmonton - Roloson - NCAA
    Florida - Auld - OHL
    Los Angeles - Garon - QMJHL
    Minnesota - Backstrom - Europe
    Montreal - Huet - Europe
    Nashville - Vokoun - Europe
    New Jersey - Brodeur - QMJHL
    NY Islanders - DiPietro - NCAA
    NY Rangers - Lundqvist - Europe
    Ottawa - Emery - OHL
    Pittsburgh - Fleury - QMJHL
    Philly - Biron - QMJHL
    Phoenix - Joseph - NCAA
    San Jose - Nabokov - Europe
    St-Louis - Legace - OHL
    Tampa Bay - Holmqvist - Europe
    Toronto - Raycroft - OHL
    Vancouver - Luongo - QMJHL
    Washington - Kolzig - WHL

    These were #1 goalies, or the goalie who played the most (baring an injury) on the 30 NHL teams last year.

    Europe - 10
    QMJHL - 7
    NCAA - 6
    OHL - 5
    WHL - 2

    I will admit that the QMJHL is going through a little "lul" right now and the WHL is producing some good goalies, but lets not get carried away yet :)
     
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    I was at a luncheon for corporate season ticket holders at MSG (I was invited by my father's boss) and was joking around with a scout (can't remember who, it was a couple years ago) and when the subject of the CHL came up I joked that I was surprised they used goalies in the 'Q' (due to the absurdly high point totals in the league) and he broke out laughing and said he agreed completely.
     
  6. The 'Dub is a much more defensive league than the other two, it's not even close.

    The O and Q are both very offensive leagues, but styles do depend from team to team. London and Sault St. Marie certainly approach the game differently, and not every team in the WHL plays like Everett does.
     
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    Yea the dub is definately the most defensive league of the 3

    and plus they have a much harder travel schedule which can cause fatigue
     
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    What a dumb ass of a scout.

    There are good players in every league, scouts that paint players from one league all with the same brush don't know what they are doing.

    There are offensively gifted players in the dub and there are defensive players in the Q.
     
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    Exactly. That's why I think my Bruins' pick Hamill in the OHL under the Knights' system could easily score 120 points. WHL is the most defensive and by far the best as shown at the Memorial Cup.
     
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    If you look at the last 10 Mem Cups, the WHL has performed the worst.

    BUT, you shouldn't use the Mem cup as any kind of litmus test...you're taking 1 team from each league (sometimes 2) and pinning them head to head. One league may have 2 stacked teams with a lot of the leagues talent on those 2 teams, vs one league may have 7-8 top end teams where the talent is more spread out...who do you think will look better?
     
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    Are you arguing the WHL isn't the best league. Everett could also probably beat any team from the O or the Q. The boys are bigger out there and play a more NHL style defensive game. The WHL always produces the best d-men and I know for a fact from watching it the whole year the overall goaltending in the OHL has to be the worst, it was pretty pathetic. I'm not going through it all but a team from the West has won 4 of the last 7 years and 5 of the last 10. I'm not going through runner ups but they've won half of the last 10 and they've performed the worst? The Q has only one twice, I don't know what your scale you're going on but I consider the league that's won half of them to be outperforming the league that's won 20%.
     
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    Im arguing against using the Memorial Cup to prove your point :)
     

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