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How isn't it? Baseball is different from the real world in that only so many plate appearances are allowed.
MLB off-season News & Notes thread (Phils sign Kingery to 6 year deal)
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i guess i'm just not understanding what it is you said.
some idiotic gimmick poster suggested that he'd be happy that players are begging for scraps and you've compared it to people working for successful companies. mlb isn't a company. it's a league whose workforce is represented by a union. the money is brought in and doled out to the players but most is kept by the owners. i would rather a larger percentage of said money go to the people doing the work, not the people sitting in a luxury box.
some idiotic gimmick poster suggested that he'd be happy that players are begging for scraps and you've compared it to people working for successful companies. mlb isn't a company. it's a league whose workforce is represented by a union. the money is brought in and doled out to the players but most is kept by the owners. i would rather a larger percentage of said money go to the people doing the work, not the people sitting in a luxury box.
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in MLB it's generally a 50/50 split (been ranging from 48% to 52% recent years), which by any other measure than pro sports is completely obscene. In most industries labor is about 20% of revenue, highest in general being 35% in the restaurant industry
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Baseball players are replaceable. Something that you keep denying. They are replaceable with other high end players. It's simple supply and demand.
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Christ, yes they are, just with others that are the best. What level of WAR is irreplaceable?
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A .1 player is replaceable by another .1 level player, or a net combo to get to .1. This shouldn't be complicated.
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You're talking on a team basis whereas I'm talking on a league basis. Mike Trout isn't replaceable.
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It doesn't matter. All employees in all industries are replaceable, that was the original point. In some industries only a few are capable of replacing them and at the top their are even fewer.
You can't simply say that 40 HR guys are irreplaceable. It's not true. Not on any version of irreplaceable.
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How many guys can you hire off the street to hit 40+ HR's? Of course they're replaceable. Just not with guys good enough to replicate who they're replacing.
And the business is centered around the best of the best competing against each other.
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Never said anything about random guys off the street. Very few jobs can be replaced by random people off the street. The fact that jobs require levels of skill are reasons why individuals across all industries can earn more money.
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Who are you hiring to replace the guys hitting 40+ HR's? AAAA guys?
And the vast majority of jobs can be filled with people off the street with a few months training.
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Once again, you're looking at this on a team by team basis which I've already said I'm not.
A TEAM can replace a great home run hitter. The LEAGUE can not. The labor pool can not.
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And I'm saying it doesn't matter.
Players improve and decline constantly. Previously you used Judge as an example. Before last season, he wasn't a 40 HR guy, and now he is. Players are replaceable, and young players are constantly doing it.
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I'm all for the players getting paid, it's better than the owners keeping it all, but at the same time they have to stop being all butthurt that front offices are smarter now and between that and the luxury tax are less likely to give out stupid contracts.
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