That's some interesting wording to shed Holmgren in a more positive light. So what you really mean is that Holmgren was Flyers GM for 8 seasons (unless you think being asst. GM for the first 8 games wipes out being GM for the remaining 74 games in 06/07). *Made it past the 2nd round twice in those 8 seasons* (1 ECF loss, 1 SCF loss.) 2 first round losses. 2 second round losses. 2 missed playoffs. Finished better than 3rd place in his division *once* in those 8 seasons. (1 first place, 4 third places, two 4th places, and a 5th place.) Had only 2 100 point teams in those 8 seasons. And, again, the biggest thing that irks me is the spin that Holmgren "turned around a team with the worst record in the league." Pffft. He inherited a goldmine of a situation for all of the reasons I listed in my previous post. Almost NO GM gets to inherit a situation that flush with assets, young talent, cap space. And then, through a series of woeful blunders, he proceeded to piss away draft picks, destroy the cap, and by the time he was forced out, he left Hextall with a team in major salary cap trouble and at the bottom of the NHL in prospect rankings. A far cry from the fertile landscape Holmgren himself had inherited 8 years earlier. He was like a tornado that swept through the organization and Hextall was left to repair the damage.