Minor League Thread 2017-18: Part VIII

[GeorgeKaplan]

Hartford up 2-0 right now vs the Baby Pens at the end of the first. Goals from Schneider and DeSalvo. Pack up 16-7 in SOG. Denis, Fontaine, and Bigras with assists.

Scored the goals 34 seconds apart.

Waiting for that post-first period multi-goal collapse

 

[Irishguy42]

Sprong makes it 2-1 with ~15 minutes left in the third.

 

[Irishguy42]

Up 4-1 with ~3 minutes remaining in the third.

Fogarty and Lettieri with the third and fourth goal.

 

[Irishguy42]

Pack wins 4-1.

To recap:
Lettieri, Fogarty, Schneider, DeSalvo with a goal
Chytil, Schneider, Bigras, Fontaine, Denis with an assist.

Nell with 30 saves. SOG even at 31.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Pack wins 4-1.

To recap:
Lettieri, Fogarty, Schneider, DeSalvo with a goal
Chytil, Schneider, Bigras, Fontaine, Denis with an assist.

Nell with 30 saves. SOG even at 31.

How was Chytil's assist?

 

[Irishguy42]

How was Chytil's assist?

Primary, so not a bust.

(I'm trying to find video)

 

[Irishguy42]

Here are highlights for the entire game:

 

[kovazub94]

Here are highlights for the entire game:

Spirited contest. I’m sure Rangers - Pens overtime thriller had nothing to do with it.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Here are highlights for the entire game:

Holy crap, great hands by Chityl to set up the fourth goal.

 

[ecemleafs]

Is there any realistic comparison when you put all those together?

Mario Lemieux

 

[Irishguy42]

Almost the end of the first period. Rochester up 2-1. Bigras with the goal, Fontaine and DeSalvo with the assists.

 

[eco's bones]

Hartford and Rochester tied now 3-3 in the 2nd. Bigras, Lettieri and Nieves.

And Kotyk puts the Wolfpack ahead 4-3. Two periods done.

 

[YoSoyLalo]

Big boy that can skate. But then also got hands, shot, vision and awareness. Now that’s a scary proposition.

He truly reminds me of Malkin.

And the scary thing is that thus far their development has been near identical - they have played in comparable leagues competition wise, and produced similarily.

 

[Ghost of jas]

He truly reminds me of Malkin.

And the scary thing is that thus far their development has been near identical - they have played in comparable leagues competition wise, and produced similarily.

Dammit, I see the same thing. But, you know the moment you bring it up , people look at you sideways, and claim Ranger fans overrate their prospects.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Dammit, I see the same thing. But, you know the moment you bring it up , people look at you sideways, and claim Ranger fans overrate their prospects.

People need to realize that comparisons based on style are not the same as comparisons based on potential.

I got flamed for comparing Lias to Bergeron because I feel they play a similar style. It doesn't mean I expect Lias to have the same career as Bergeron. It would be truly amazing if he does of course, but it's similar to Bozle's comparison of Chytil and Malkin. They do have eerily similar styles.

 

[Ghost of jas]

People need to realize that comparisons based on style are not the same as comparisons based on potential.

I got flamed for comparing Lias to Bergeron because I feel they play a similar style. It doesn't mean I expect Lias to have the same career as Bergeron. It would be truly amazing if he does of course, but it's similar to Bozle's comparison of Chytil and Malkin. They do have eerily similar styles.

Exactly. Nor does style equal production.

 

[eco's bones]

Anyway the Pack wins 6-4. The Nieves goal was changed to Labrie. Catenacci got the 5th goal which became the game winner and then Lettieri scored his 19th goal and second of the game into an empty net.

 

[Irishguy42]

Well, I sure hope Chytil can transform into a Top-100 player, not this Malkin fella

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Well, I sure hope Chytil can transform into a Top-100 player, not this Malkin fella

So... Toews?

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Malkin is 13th all time in NHL history in PPG average among players who've played 500 games. He might be a top 10 forward in the history of the sport.

If he's comparable to Malkin at the end of his career, its a poor man's Malkin, and even that would probably be a great career. I understand the comparison due to size, skating, lankiness, but I think Malkin has another few gears of skill.

 

[Irishguy42]

Is Chytil score?

If he's not, then he can't be Malkin, because Malkin is score.

 

[kovazub94]

Malkin is 13th all time in NHL history in PPG average among players who've played 500 games. He might be a top 10 forward in the history of the sport.

If he's comparable to Malkin at the end of his career, its a poor man's Malkin, and even that would probably be a great career. I understand the comparison due to size, skating, lankiness, but I think Malkin has another few gears of skill.

Did you miss posts from @jas and @Amazing Kreiderman just 3-4 above yours?

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Did you miss posts from @jas and @Amazing Kreiderman just 3-4 above yours?

Kind of. I saw they were there, but didn't read them.

I've changed my opinion on this issue recently. A few years ago I might've been right there comparing him to Malkin due to those few attributes that I agree he has in common with Malkin, but I just don't feel like it helps to compare prospects to the legends of the sport and then say "but he'll be worse." There obviously is a big reason why they won't be as good as that legend, and its usually something very important stylistically. What if Kreider was a great playmaker? Would he be Mario Lemieux? What if Gilmour could defend? Would he be Erik Karlsson? Its leaving out such a big part of the game to compare these guys to legends.

Chytil will likely be a first liner, but Malkin is a first ballot hall of famer. I'm not sure its fair to either of them to make that comparison. Thats nothing against anyone here, but this kind of thing is something I feel strongly about that we should stop comparing good players to legends with obvious qualifications of why they won't be as good. If you don't need qualifications, I think its appropriate, but otherwise, I don't think it is.

 

[Irishguy42]

Kind of. I saw they were there, but didn't read them.

I've changed my opinion on this issue recently. A few years ago I might've been right there comparing him to Malkin due to those few attributes that I agree he has in common with Malkin, but I just don't feel like it helps to compare prospects to the legends of the sport and then say "but he'll be worse." There obviously is a big reason why they won't be as good as that legend, and its usually something very important stylistically. What if Kreider was a great playmaker? Would he be Mario Lemieux? What if Gilmour could defend? Would he be Erik Karlsson? Its leaving out such a big part of the game to compare these guys to legends.

f***ing sticky the bolded. Please.

Every. Time.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Isn't that where the whole "Poor man's *enter legend's name*" comes from?