Never in my life would I think someone could surpass Gaborik's franchise high goals scored.
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Never in my life would I think someone could surpass Gaborik's franchise high goals scored.
Dr Jan Itor
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I sure didn't think it would be a 33 year old making three and half million bucks.
That too!
All things considered, do you think this is the more productive season as a whole for the players and team? Not only have they fought through injuries at the very beginning, but many players have somehow pushed themselves into a different gear production wise. Hell, by your projections Staal could break Gaborik's point record at 83 still too. And Suter can beat his own record of 52 points.
That is just mind blowing when you think of how poorly they played for basically 1/4 of the season and are still most likely in a fight for playoffs.
Staal is put up most of his points with less than ideal linemates: Ennis, Foligno, or Winnik as one of his wingers for most of the season. I think it's individual ability more than the system the team plays. The system helps, he probably wouldn't have these totals under a heavy trap game coach.
If he was on a line with Granny and a healthy Nino all year and they were blowing things up I'd probably lean more towards the system.
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Middle six has been a mess all year, not just Coyle.
Hopefully we have finally found for good lines for the final stretch.
His most common linemates are JEE, Ennis, Staal, Parise, and Cullen; within ~20 mins of shared ToI. JEE was a black hole for scoring most of the season. ZP has found parts of his game just recently. Ennis is well Ennis. He has gotten the good Cullen as his linemate at least (early season Cullen wasn't good). Staal is in a league of his own, regardless of his linemates.
His ToI is decent at 16:47 mins average, PP time is 1:33 mins average (playing the point/4th FWD doesn't seem to be a good fit), PK time at 1:03 mins average.
I think it's something in his head this year more than anything, being injured and recovery time also plays a part. He's wiffed, missed, bobbled, or hurried more than his fair share of golden chances this year.
Coyle just isn't a goal scorer, but he should be putting points on the board, doing great physical work, and playing well defensively. Swiss Army knife type guy. Not digging him on the PP point, though. Not dangerous, and like most forwards back there, doesn't really know what to do and when to do it. Surely a big body like his should be near the net?
DANOZ28
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before staal i had my eye on kaprizov possibly breaking that record if he ever plays here. STAALSTAR is incredible.
Why would that be Parise? Are his minutes/PP minutes actually down significantly? He has to know coming back from an injury like that he'll have less ice time...
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Have you listened to the podcast? You think Ennis has any pull in the lockerroom? You think Nino is getting more ice time than he deserves? If you look at the situations that Russo is talking about, there's really only one guy getting time in those situations, that shouldn't be. I know Russo has started to become more of a drama queen, but this isn't the 1st time that he's alluded to Parise being a pain behind the scenes.
I haven't yet, likely will tomorrow. My understanding from what you said is that someone is complaining about ice time/PP time, and that could very easily be someone like Ennis, who has called himself a bit of a PP specialist in the past. So I'm interpreting what you said as someone is complaining about their own ice time, not complaining about someone else's. Agree about Russo becoming more a drama queen, as good as a writer as he is.
I'll listen to it tomorrow to get my take on it.
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Souhan asked him about Boudreau and what he thinks of the job that he's doing. Russo replied with a comment about egos, and guys that are too caught up in being in the top 6, on the PP, and being on the ice late in games, and that makes it harder on the coaching staff having to deal with that. IMO- there's only a handful of guys that could have that kind of influence.
Al Lagoon
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I'm kind of sick of Russo making those kind of insinuations. He's not on the team, but sometimes he acts like he is.
Dude is just a reporter.
Dude is just a reporter.
Dr Jan Itor
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Parise is playing in the top 6 and on the PP, not much to complain about.
Russo needs to name names or shut up with that stuff.
Russo needs to name names or shut up with that stuff.
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It could be lots of players.
-Coyle: playing the point (just because), getting 3rd line ToI, getting moved to/from center/wing, trade rumors got under his skin. Russo has been picking at him this year with other comments.
-Spurgeon: being split from Suter on the 5v5 and PP.
-Nino: playing 3rd line time, still on the PP even though he hasn't looked good most of the last month.
-Parise: he got prime PP time and big minutes as soon as he came back. Dunno if he "demanded" it, or BB was trying to whip him into shape. But getting those things could be a point of contention?
-Koivu/Staal dynamic: Staal got (or Koivu lost) Granny/Zucker, which unit goes out first on the PP.
-Suter: lost his little buddy (Spurgeon), his ToI is the lowest it's ever been in MN.
-Dumba: got demoted back to 2nd pair 5v5 and PP.
I don't see the issues coming from:
-JEE or Seeler: rookies with no real pull.
-Winnik, Ennis, Foligno, Prosser, or Olofsson: they could be stuck in the pressbox if they started causing trouble.
-Cullen: hasn't seen the PP for a few years, is probably about at his limit for minutes.
-Granny or Zucker: they play prime minutes 5v5 and the PP.
-Brodin: hasn't been much of a PP guy in the past. Does he think he belongs on the PP? His getting the same minutes and situations as previous seasons.
Pure guess on the situation is Parise took the spot in the top-6 (now) and on on the PP that Coyle thinks should be his. BB likes competition between his players and is pushing Coyle/Parise to compete with each other. Parise is coming out on top right now and Coyle is a little bummed. Russo hears an off the cuff remark and makes it into something bigger than it really is. He needs something to talk/write about to keep his subscribers interested and gossip and rumors are an easy way to go when there isn't anything else to talk about.
SupremeNachos
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Souhan is as bad as Reusse is when it comes to reliable info. And I know I've said it in the Russo thread, but starting in the last year when he was in the ST to know I think he is doing a lot of clickbait type reporting.
I like Russo, but don't like the gossipy shadow campaigns he occasionally indulges in. He labeled Haula as a fringe NHL'er early on, and said how he had to change his game from being a scorer to a 4th line checker.
This team sure could use his 24g, 22a, speed, and ability to play C right now.
This team sure could use his 24g, 22a, speed, and ability to play C right now.
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