Value of: Mike Hoffman to the NYR

[Lundqvist 30 NY]

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[HawkeyTalkMan]

Skjei

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

value sounds good but NYR has enough wingers and is super thin on D as it is

 

[Machinehead]

value sounds good but NYR has enough wingers and is super thin on D as it is

Agreed.

What it would take to fetch Hoffman isn't worth it because of our needs.

 

[danielpalfredsson]

Ryan McDonagh would be nice....

 

[QJL]

I'll offer Anthony DeAngelo + 2018 2nd + 2018 4th

 

[solidprospect]

Kreider or Zuccarello+

 

[TheBradyBunch]

Kreider or Zuccarello+

Or we can wait until after they pay Kreider his bonus in the summer. We'll even throw in Perron .

 

[Deam78]

A swap for Kreider seems fair. Maybe play around picks to even it out.

 

[Kaapo di tutti capi]

I'm not sure the Rangers should be targeting Hoffman. I would think the guy the Rangers should want if he's available is Pageau. Doubt we could afford what the Sens want for him though.

 

[bernmeister]

Kreider or Zuccarello+

Or we can wait until after they pay Kreider his bonus in the summer. We'll even throw in Perron .

A swap for Kreider seems fair. Maybe play around picks to even it out.

Dream on.
Hoffman is clearly the better sniper, but Kreider adds elements most don't.
He won't be moved unless maybe deal is to good to reject due to massive overpay.

 

[WesMcCauley]

I would easily trade Kreider if he returned Hoffman.

 

[ZiGOODejad]

lol okay will throw shatty in too haha

 

[Kupo]

Dream on.
Hoffman is clearly the better sniper, but Kreider adds elements most don't.
He won't be moved unless maybe deal is to good to reject due to massive overpay.

You think Kreider is more valuable than Malkin.

Nuff said.

 

[Ouroboros]

Hoffman, 2nd, 5th for Brendan Smith at 30% retention.

 

[bernmeister]

I'm not sure the Rangers should be targeting Hoffman. I would think the guy the Rangers should want if he's available is Pageau. Doubt we could afford what the Sens want for him though.

McDonagh + Andersson
for
Chabot + Pageau

Sens get better LD to immediately complement Karl-meister.
If they turn it around --- and this improves their odds of doing that ---- great. If not, they have option to not only flip McD OR Karlsson, both to bundle the pair. McD is more expensive than elc Chabot, but is discounted for balance of his deal, and is cheap for what a 1LD would go for.

Andersson we don't know his upside vs Pageau, but as elc he is cheaper going forward.

Rangers get Pageau decent $ decent term for now, but more importantly, get elc rookie replacement for McD.

Very rare situation where various aspects [C for C, LD for LD, ele for elc, etc.] seem to balance out, so if both sides going for fair value, no need to add.

These are the guys to target, not Hoffman who Sens prefer to hold on to, I expect, but in any event would be too expensive.

 

[bernmeister]

You think Kreider is more valuable than Malkin.

Nuff said.

healthier Kreider at half on decent term
should not be sacrificed TODAY for Malkin or equivalent
who is like double $, older, has been out/in/out past couple of years, and remains injury risk.

PREVIOUSLY this was not the case.
But today, those are the facts.

Would be foolish bad asset mgmt to move Kreider for instant gratification on hope that Malkin TODAY might be able to move you over the finish line,.

Older/more banged up does not apply to Hoffman, but his ability to dominate is limited to his shot. Worth the right overpay, if we have adequate currency, but not Kreider

 

[bert]

I'll offer Anthony DeAngelo + 2018 2nd + 2018 4th

Good for you. That's hot garbage.

 

[Tkachuckycheese]

Filip Chytil + 3rd pick

 

[DJJones]

I'd rather Hoffman than Kane for the Flames.

He could fit anywhere on our top 3 lines.

 

[Kupo]

healthier Kreider at half on decent term
should not be sacrificed TODAY for Malkin or equivalent
who is like double $, older, has been out/in/out past couple of years, and remains injury risk.

PREVIOUSLY this was not the case.
But today, those are the facts.

Would be foolish bad asset mgmt to move Kreider for instant gratification on hope that Malkin TODAY might be able to move you over the finish line,.

Older/more banged up does not apply to Hoffman, but his ability to dominate is limited to his shot. Worth the right overpay, if we have adequate currency, but not Kreider

This is all biased nonsense to the 7th level squared X 787,612,903.

 

[ZiGOODejad]

Filip Chytil + 3rd pick

thats gunna be a no from me dawg

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

healthier Kreider at half on decent term
should not be sacrificed TODAY for Malkin or equivalent
who is like double $, older, has been out/in/out past couple of years, and remains injury risk.

PREVIOUSLY this was not the case.
But today, those are the facts.

Would be foolish bad asset mgmt to move Kreider for instant gratification on hope that Malkin TODAY might be able to move you over the finish line,.

Older/more banged up does not apply to Hoffman, but his ability to dominate is limited to his shot. Worth the right overpay, if we have adequate currency, but not Kreider

Swapping kreider for Malkin instantly makes NYR a better team than they were before said trade, and there's no denying that

 

[Lays]

I would easily trade Kreider if he returned Hoffman.

same here.

 

[Lays]

McDonagh + Andersson
for
Chabot + Pageau

Sens get better LD to immediately complement Karl-meister.
If they turn it around --- and this improves their odds of doing that ---- great. If not, they have option to not only flip McD OR Karlsson, both to bundle the pair. McD is more expensive than elc Chabot, but is discounted for balance of his deal, and is cheap for what a 1LD would go for.

Andersson we don't know his upside vs Pageau, but as elc he is cheaper going forward.

Rangers get Pageau decent $ decent term for now, but more importantly, get elc rookie replacement for McD.

Very rare situation where various aspects [C for C, LD for LD, ele for elc, etc.] seem to balance out, so if both sides going for fair value, no need to add.

These are the guys to target, not Hoffman who Sens prefer to hold on to, I expect, but in any event would be too expensive.

i want to rip my eyes out
terrible for NYR