Mike Green or PK Subban?

[SeanMoneyHands]

Who was the better defenseman at their peak?

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[Filthy Dangles]

Depends what you're really asking. you could say Mike Green's best single season was better than Subban's, even with that lockout norris.

but over a longer time period, Subban was obviously the better more consistent player.

 

[Hisch13r]

PK not even close

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

As a Caps fan, Subban, not close. He was in control at both ends of the rink, as long as he wasn’t doing anything stupid.

 

[JasonRoseEh]

Easily Subban, Mike Green as a defenseman was a mirage. Basically he was horrible defensively but a solid puck mover and elite offensively benefitting greatly from the high octane offense/PP around him. As short lived as it was, Subban was a top tier defenseman for those couple years.

The Capitals, mainly George McPhee's, biggest blunder was mistaking Mike Green for a 1A dman and not surrounding him with some sort of stay at home, shut down guy. At best he was a second pairing guy and powerplay point specialist.

 

[banks]

Mike Green got better in his own end as his career went on. But it absolutely came at the expense of his scoring stats.

Subban was, at one point, the total package.

 

[pegcity]

I think people are under rating how good Mike Green was.

Does someone want to pull up Green's stats on Evolving hockey?

 

[Bouboumaster]

Subban was a top 5 dman at one point so yeah, him

 

[Canadiens Ghost]

Subby Doo.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Subban not close. Green was better at putting up empty points. Subban the much better hockey player.

 

[Strong Hearts]

Green was better offensively, but Subban was far better defensively and overall.

 

[Montreal Shadow]

The one who won a Norris and was a finalist two other times. Subban at his peak was a top 5 defenseman in the league and for some stretches, arguably the best.

Green never came close.

 

[Ignite111]

Lol what?

 

[Fatass]

PK wasn’t an overhyped entertaining player to watch, who had (has) a sparkling personality. Never a fan of his game though. For me it’s Green 10 times out of 10. Too much “drama” always seemed to swirl around PK.

 

[biturbo19]

Subban was the better all-around defenceman at his peak, and was at the top for longer as well.

But Mike Green for me at least, deserves some kind of unique credit for really bringing that "New School Rover" style of defenceman to the forefront. There have always been puck-movers and offensively inclined defencemen, but it always felt to me like Green's success playing as a total rover with those "All Gas, No Brakes" Capitals teams really opened the door for that style of defenceman to become more widely accepted and even coveted around the league.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Subban is heavily overrated based on many of these comments. A flashy offensive defenseman with excellent skating who also played selfishly. Likely the better option here but far from ever truly being the top defenseman in the NHL, nor reliable defensively.

 

[bov]

Good poll. Peak vs Career changes things for me. I'd actually go with PK ever so slightly for peak, but career-wise I lean towards Green. I agree that Green is being underrated perhaps, but then again OP was specific about what we're voting for.

 

[jetsforever]

Good question, think I'll go Subban

 

[Sasha Orlov]

PK at his best was a game breaker, just absolutely dominant

Green benefitted heavily from a killer offensive team

 

[ottawa]

The Norris winner. PK was arguable the best defenseman from 2013-2016, he dominated like Green can only dream of.

 

[biturbo19]

PK at his best was a game breaker, just absolutely dominant

Green benefitted heavily from a killer offensive team

I feel like that Mike Green / Killer Offensive Team thing with the Caps was a pretty symbiotic relationship. He definitely benefitted from playing with that kind of firepower up front. But at the same time, i think those forwards also really benefitted from having Green's ability to move the puck to them and to jump up in the play to create havoc in defensive coverages and give them extra room to work.

In that situation, Green was pretty darn dominant himself at his peak.

 

[JasonRoseEh]

I think people are under rating how good Mike Green was.

Does someone want to pull up Green's stats on Evolving hockey?

Mike Green was a bad defensemen who became at best average. He was great at offense in the regular season though, but mostly awful at even that in the playoffs which made him a complete liability for those early Capitals teams.

 

[ITM]

If the poll is restricted to peak and not career, whatever intangibles some argue Subban had over Green’s supplemented totals, the fact remains, those totals - including the +/- - compel one answer:

Mike Green’s peak was better than PK Subban’s.

 

[Regal]

I think people are under rating how good Mike Green was.

Does someone want to pull up Green's stats on Evolving hockey?

Mike Green’s individual best 3 years:

And all three combined:

Subban’s three Norris noms individually:

And his three year run from Norris to 14-15: