Mike Gartner: Why Is He In The HHOF?

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  1. silver_made*

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    708 is why, correct? Any other reason(s)?
     
  2. habfan4

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    A record 15 straight 30 goal seasons and a record for 30 goal plus seasons (17 in a 19 year career). He was the model of scoring consistency.
     
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    Why did Clark Gillies make it :cry:
     
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    it's hard to argue with ...

    1- 50 goal season
    9 - 40 goal seasons
    17 - 30 goal seasons ... this is the stat i find most impressive.

    he quietly put up hall of fame numbers by consistently being a very good player through his career.

    i'm not saying he was a superstar by any means, or better (or even close) than any of these players in their prime, but consider...

    kurri had 11-30 goal seasons,
    messier had 11-30 goal seasons,
    gretzky had 14-30 goal seasons,
    brett hull has 14-30 goal seasons,
    hawerchuk had 10-30 goal seasons,
    lafleur had 7-30 goal seasons.

    to me, it makes a pretty compelling argument for his entry to the hall.
     
  5. Chileiceman

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    And on top of all that he was a very classy person.
     
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    He was very consistent through out his career.
     
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    He needs another reason? :dunno:
     
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    how many times was he an all star? i really dont know - i think he didnt get it as often as he should have, especially in the later half when he played on stacked teams with other top players. he was a dangerous goal scorer his entire career, even near the end. he also was one of the fastest wingers of all time. he could skate, for sure.
     
  9. espo*

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    He's hall worthy for sure.Great goal scorer,very consistent and dangerous.Over 700 goals will get a fella into the hall of fame....how many guys have pulled that off?Easy pick to be there.
     
  10. I have a few reasons why he is in the HHOF, but I rather not share them now since im at 12 warning points.
     
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    Great leader with the PA, and boy, was he fast. How old was he when he won his last speed skating title at the skills competition? 40?
     
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    Even by the stringent baseball hof criteria, he'd probably make it in. Too many goals to look over. His dominance was in his consistency over a long period. If he had played on one team over the majority of his career, he might be more respected. It's hard to identify him with a team. He moved around alot in the second half of his career. Great wheels and hands!
     
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    Here is the reason why.......

    Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM GP G A Pts PIM
    1975-76 St.-Catharines Black Hawks OHA 3 1 3 4 0
    1976-77 Niagara-Falls Flyers OHA 62 33 42 75 125
    1977-78 Niagara-Falls Flyers OHA 64 41 49 90 56
    1978-79 Cincinnati Stingers WHA 78 27 25 52 123 3 0 0 0 2
    1979-80 Washington Capitals NHL 77 36 32 68 66 -- -- -- -- --
    1980-81 Washington Capitals NHL 80 48 46 94 100 -- -- -- -- --
    1981-82 Washington Capitals NHL 80 35 45 80 121 -- -- -- -- --
    1982-83 Washington Capitals NHL 73 38 38 76 54 4 0 0 0 4
    1983-84 Washington Capitals NHL 80 40 45 85 90 8 3 7 10 16
    1984-85 Washington Capitals NHL 80 50 52 102 71 5 4 3 7 9
    1985-86 Washington Capitals NHL 74 35 40 75 63 9 2 10 12 4
    1986-87 Washington Capitals NHL 78 41 32 73 61 7 4 3 7 14
    1987-88 Washington Capitals NHL 80 48 33 81 73 14 3 4 7 14
    1988-89 Washington Capitals NHL 56 26 29 55 71 -- -- -- -- --
    1988-89 Minnesota North Stars NHL 13 7 7 14 2 5 0 0 0 6
    1989-90 Minnesota North Stars NHL 67 34 36 70 32 -- -- -- -- --
    1989-90 New-York Rangers NHL 12 11 5 16 6 10 5 3 8 12
    1990-91 New-York Rangers NHL 79 49 20 69 53 6 1 1 2 0
    1991-92 New-York Rangers NHL 76 40 41 81 55 13 8 8 16 4
    1992-93 New-York Rangers NHL 84 45 23 68 59 -- -- -- -- --
    1993-94 New-York Rangers NHL 71 28 24 52 58 -- -- -- -- --
    1993-94 Toronto Maple Leafs NHL 10 6 6 12 4 18 5 6 11 14
    1994-95 Toronto Maple Leafs NHL 38 12 8 20 6 5 2 2 4 2
    1995-96 Toronto Maple Leafs NHL 82 35 19 54 52 6 4 1 5 4
    1996-97 Phoenix Coyotes NHL 82 32 31 63 38 7 1 2 3 4
    1997-98 Phoenix Coyotes NHL 60 12 15 27 24 5 1 0 1 18
    WHA Totals 78 27 25 52 123 3 0 0 0 2
    NHL Totals 1432 708 627 1335 1159 122 43 50 93 125

    Gp Goals Assists Points

    1432 708 627 1335

    1335 points in 1432 games isnt HOF deserving plus the 708 goals he scored.Just look at these stats they are excellent and the guy was a scoring machine through his whole career.Plus a very nice guy may I add I met him when i was like 13 or14 somewhere around that age he was leaving the parking garage in his Jaguar and actually stopped to sign an auto for me and my younger brother and his friend.Quit a gentleman.
     
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    Only five men have scored more NHL goals than Mike Gartner.

    Even if one uses the normalized goals system devised by Daryl Shilling, Gartner still ranks a very impressive 10th all-time with 670 normalized goals scored.
     
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    That is reason enough and as the second poster noted he was a consistent 30 goal guy and a model of consistancy.
     
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    mike gartner was a quiet superstar. i can't believe a certain poster named *******go would even think shouldn't be in the hall of fame.

    yes gartner was a huge part of the union but that doesn't take away from what he did on the ice.
     
  19. Corey

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    He was better than a lot of players with long careers who made it in before him, such as Johnny Bucyk. Toward the end Bucyk skated a liitle faster than a turtle but he got points playing on a powerhouse team.
     
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    Well if you don't get in the Hall of Fame with 708 goals and 17 30 goal seasons there is a problem somewhere he was so fast and he competed until he was quite old. He was just a quiet guy that did not want the spotlight on him but consitently did his job almost better then anyone else.
     
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    lol, why would this certain poster surprise you by thinking Gartner shouldn't be in? No posts of the poster have shown much ability for obective thought thus far.
     
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    Consistency, longevity, class and speed to burn. I think all the stats have been listed above. There's a reason the guy was the NHLPA president in the last lockout: he exuded class and integrity, had the respect of the players and was well-spoken.

    The guy would sort of be the Rafael Palmerio of hockey. Steady, consistent, never one of the top five or 10 players in the league, but a guy who was always among the better players, year-in, year-out, who, by the end of his career, winds up among the top finishers all-time at his specialty.
     
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    Nope.

    708 is the reason.

    Wouldn't have gotten my vote.
     
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