Memo to Marvin Miller: Shut Up Please. (TSN link)

[Crazy_Ike]

http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=148228&hubname=nhl

Go back to screwing up your own sport, and leave ours alone. Sure, because hockey managed to come up with a deal that is fair to everyone involved and your precious baseball languishes with the worst deal and least respect of any major north american sport does sort of show your own idiocies, but that's no reason to try to bring everyone else down with you.

Now go back to seeing whether the Yankees can duplicate the payroll of the entire National League, please. Your opinion is not respected in hockey, nor does it deserve to be.

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[Timmy]

"...the NHLPA has never been a legitimate union at any time. It has always been an offshoot of management."

Well, that explains everything....

 

[Roccoman]

nothing to see here . . . inmate got out, but we have him under control again . . . move along

 

[braincramp]

Maybe Miller is hoping he can lead the NHLPA?

 

[Hawker14]

he speaks the truth.

 

[PACaptain]

Marvin Miller cares nothing about hockey or the NHLPA, he is simply positioning baseball's union to keep its dominance over the owners when their CBA is up. The last smoke screen of a deal that baseball came up with to make the game fairer has not really done that while the NHL is following the NFL model very well. The baseball union wants to keep itself in the position so that its players can make the most money and not have to play for teams like the Pirates, Devils Rays, Brewers, etc. Miller just used the NHL to try and make his stance seem stronger.

 

[Egil]

"the NHLPA has never been a legitimate union at any time. It has always been an offshoot of management"

How can he say that with a straight face? Its not like the owners got the players to capitulate quickly or easily, it cost them an ENTIRE season. In short, the NHL owners were more unified and pissed off than any other group of owners before, and as such they got a cap.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Marvin Miller is a freakin jackass. the guy seriously needs to shut up allready.

I never had any respect for the guy anyway. this just cements it.

 

[Hasbro]

"the NHLPA has never been a legitimate union at any time. It has always been an offshoot of management"

How can he say that with a straight face? Its not like the owners got the players to capitulate quickly or easily, it cost them an ENTIRE season. In short, the NHL owners were more unified and pissed off than any other group of owners before, and as such they got a cap.

He could make that claim about the NFL, but he's just way off base here.

If the rumors are true about Donald Fehr encoraging Goddenow in this matter just to create a strong postion for the MLB cba I hope ownership[ takes his *** to the cleaners.

 

[Jimmypop316]

ESPN is going to make this their top story so they can bash the NHL some more.

 

[Psycho Papa Joe]

Have you ever respected any man with Marvin as a first name

 

[Captain Ron]

I don't think it was necessary. All the signs were that the union, having come that far, they had more than a fighter's chance of prevailing.

Yes because the league, after being willing to give up an entire season, was on the verge of crumbling and giving in to the union. This guy has no clue what he is talking about.

 

[grego]

he is just pissed off because now MLB is the only sport without any cap.

It is the best thing for the NHL to have a cap.

If MLB would get a cap and have some player stability I may actually start to watch that sport again. Maybe he doesn't realize that there still are a lot of former baseball fans that don't care about baseball taht much since the last stike occured a decade ago.

If MLB would get a cap to really make the sport more interesting I would care about the game. Luckily the NHL has a cap so I stay interested in this great game

 

[arrbez]

Have you ever respected any man with Marvin as a first name

I like Marvin Harrison's moustache

 

[Resolute]

"the NHLPA has never been a legitimate union at any time. It has always been an offshoot of management"

How can he say that with a straight face? Its not like the owners got the players to capitulate quickly or easily, it cost them an ENTIRE season. In short, the NHL owners were more unified and pissed off than any other group of owners before, and as such they got a cap.

Because Marvin Miller only had one strategy: go on strike and wait for the owners to collapse. In his mind, the NHLPA should have simply waited until the owners came crawling to them, no matter how long it took.

Of course, Goodenow tried that tactic, and it failed miserably when the players themselves decided that they didn't like not getting paid. Miller would have flamed out just as badly had he led the NHLPA into this negotiation.

 

[grego]

Because Marvin Miller only had one strategy: go on strike and wait for the owners to collapse. In his mind, the NHLPA should have simply waited until the owners came crawling to them, no matter how long it took.

Of course, Goodenow tried that tactic, and it failed miserably when the players themselves decided that they didn't like not getting paid. Miller would have flamed out just as badly had he led the NHLPA into this negotiation.

Maybe Miller feels that a real union doesn't care if the employees are begging for a settlement and asking to get back to work with the best deal possible.