TSN: McKenzie :If Habs take a center it's no longer an off the board pick

[First Line]

On his latest podcast, says that Habs needs may make a Center the BPA. Basically don't be suprised if we end up with a big Finnish center. Also mentions Hayton and moving down.

https://www.tsn.ca/radio/toronto-1050/the-tsn-hockey-bobcast-season-2-episode-20-1.1112948

edit : draft discussion starts at 21:45
Habs pick discussion at 29:30

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[BLONG7]

MB has dem guessing!!

 

[WeThreeKings]

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[Zorba]

This way Bergevin will say he finally got his #1 Centre and tbat we all have to be patient
Why the f*** is Bergevin still employed

 

[Adam Michaels]

On Monday, McKenzie's final rankings will be released. He had him at #10 the last time. Surely he's gone up. McKenzie reinforcing what some of us have been saying the last little while, Kotkaniemi will not be a reach at #3.

 

[JSR 56]

it will be tkachuk or kotkaniemi. no point in expecting something else

 

[Habby Patty]

It will be Dobson or Kotkaniemi.

 

[Adam Michaels]

it will be tkachuk or kotkaniemi. no point in expecting something else

There is very good reason to expect someone else. Hughes is another very realistic option.

 

[Habaneros]

all these scouts are messing with the Habs head.....

lol...

Will look back on it in 5 year time.....if we get Lars Eller(Kotkaniemi. ) , i wouldn't be surprised...but these management guys will be long gone so...

i guess we can always play him on wing if Center doesn't work out...

 

[WeThreeKings]

all these scouts are messing with the Habs head.....

lol...

Will look back on it in 5 year time.....if we get Lars Eller , i woundn't be surprised...but these management guys will be long gone so

Yes because Bob's list is going to dramatically alter the course of action they set when they finished compiling their list after the Memorial Cup.

 

[Habs Halifax]

it will be tkachuk or kotkaniemi. no point in expecting something else

Zadina or Kotkaniemi. Tkachuk is not in the 3rd OA discussion.

 

[Kriss E]

On Monday, McKenzie's final rankings will be released. He had him at #10 the last time. Surely he's gone up. McKenzie reinforcing what some of us have been saying the last little while, Kotkaniemi will not be a reach at #3.

McKenzie has no logic here. Zadina is the consensus 3rd. There's no debate to be had.

 

[WeThreeKings]

McKenzie has no logic here. Zadina is the consensus 3rd. There's no debate to be had.

Sarcasm? Just because I've seen so much of this the past two months.

 

[Adam Michaels]

McKenzie has no logic here. Zadina is the consensus 3rd. There's no debate to be had.

No logic? You think he just magically decided Kotkaniemi is not a reach at 3? And yes there's a debate. Just because someone is listed as consensus doesn't mean the team selecting thinks so. I do hope there is sarcasm here, though.

 

[First Line]

This way Bergevin will say he finally got his #1 Centre and tbat we all have to be patient
Why the **** is Bergevin still employed

Just to be clear, it’s not only the Habs but the NHL scouts who value centers and D higher than wingers. At least the one Bob talked to.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Just to be clear, it’s not only the Habs but the NHL scouts who value centers and D higher than wingers. At least the one Bob talked to.

In more than one resource.. scouts have been told that they will not trade up for anything but C's and D's.

 

[Mario le Magnifique]

All this talk about center / winger or BPA, but I'm wondering if the Habs will pick a defenseman. Apparently, lots of potentially top pairing Ds in this draft, and Habs need LHD like a readheaded needs sunscreen.

 

[Habs Halifax]

All this talk about center / winger or BPA, but I'm wondering if the Habs will pick a defenseman. Apparently, lots of potentially top pairing Ds in this draft, and Habs need LHD like a readheaded needs sunscreen.

I'm not taking Hughes with the 3rd pick. But I would trade down to get Sandin in the 20th range (+/-). I agree big time that we need help on LD. It would be very disappointing not finding a LD with upside in the 1st two rounds.

3rd pick: Zadina, Kotkaniemi, or Dobson. It will be one of those 3 IMO. Those are the BPA at 3rd when Dalhin and Svechnikov are gone. I think Wahlstrom is in the mix as well but he is more in the next tier with Boqvist, Tkachuk, Hughes, Bouchard.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Just to be clear, it’s not only the Habs but the NHL scouts who value centers and D higher than wingers. At least the one Bob talked to.

Centers with size/skill too. Kotkaniemi skating is good and the thing I like the most? His goal scoring/play making ability.

We are not getting a potential #1C unless we draft one. A quote from Bergevin himself.

 

[First Line]

It will be Dobson or Kotkaniemi.

That's pretty much the impression Bob gave in the podcast.
He announced Dobson will be the 2nd ranked D on monday's list and lots of movement of scouts putting Kotkaniemi in their top 5 and Zadina outside their top 5

 

[Sugi21]

If Kotkaniemi can play anything like Saku I'll take him 3rd overall 10/10!!!

 

[Jabba11]

All smokescreen and trying to appease those who don't follow the draft. I don't think it's wise to pass over BPA for need.

 

[Adam Michaels]

All smokescreen and trying to appease those who don't follow the draft. I don't think it's wise to pass over BPA for need.

For all we know, according to Habs' scouting, the one they believe is BPA fits the need, as well. Habs have made it clear at the combine, both Bergevin and Timmins mentioned that they're not looking for BPA right now, but the one they project to be the BPA for their team down the road.

 

[davey999]

Total overthinking at this point. Zadina should be the pick - but I guess it won't at this point.

 

[Habs Halifax]

All smokescreen and trying to appease those who don't follow the draft. I don't think it's wise to pass over BPA for need.

BPA according to who? A prospect rankings that are months old? How do you explain the Blue Jackets taking PLD and passing over Puljujarvi who was the general consensus at 3rd in 2016?