Matt Carle vs Ian White

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  1. Hawkster58

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    Both promising young prospects entering the league at the same time. :clap:

    Who has more offensive upside?
     
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    Once again Ian White finds himself in a ludicrous comparison. As good as he has been in his SHORT stint with the leafs he isnt on the same level as Carle.
     
  3. Towelie*

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    Carle just one the Hobey Baker. Talk about knee jerk reactions on Ian White.
     
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    One day Carle is being compared to Jack Johnson - one day Ian White. Hehehe.
     
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    mazmin Go! Jets! Go!

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    You just wait and Ian White will two the Stanley Cup.
     
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    to me... neither are anything. wait a few years and then we'll see ;)

    mazmin... whats your username mean? :P


    so far at the nhl level... very similar stats giving the edge to white for having a good +/- on a crap leafs team.
     
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    You need to watch a little more of the two of them then. I've been very impressed with White's play so far with the Leafs. Granted it's only a few games, but he has still shown the ability to play at the top level. I see him having a solid, yet unspectacular career. Carle on the other hand, has tremendous upside. Very nice offensive package, very solid defensively. I see a definite top 4 dman, possible top pairing. The fact alone that he was drafted by San Jose tells you he has ability and potential.
     
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    honestly... so many players are great in the minor sand suck in the nhl...and vice a versa, hence players should be compared ontheir nhl experience...


    on that note... i won't compare because both are uber young and have half dozen games under their belts ;)
     
  9. spintheblackcircle

    spintheblackcircle ...so that happened.

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    Carle or White?

    Why not ask if Colaiacovo or Gorges will be better defensively, because that's as funny.
     
  10. mooseOAK*

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    The Hobey Baker Award really has never meant that much in terms of predicting great NHL players.
     
  11. The List Of Jericho

    The List Of Jericho Drink it in man....Go Leafs Go!!

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    Exactly where is Mike Mottau again?
     
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    Jordan Leopold (a much better comparison for Carle) is doing just fine on the other side of the coin.
     
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    This comparison is pretty terrible. They both played in completely different leagues, where one dominated and the other did well. I know this is a prospects board, so NHL experience isn't usually how these comparisons are done, but I think this case is too extreme for the usual treatment.
     
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    1990 Kip Miller
    1991 David Emma
    1992 Scott Pellerin
    1993 Paul Kariya
    1994 Chris Marinucci
    1995 Brian Holzinger
    1996 Brian Bonin
    1997 Brendan Morrison
    1998 Chris Drury
    1999 Jason Krog
    2000 Mike Mottau
    2001 Ryan Miller (G)
    2002 Jordan Leopold
    2003 Peter Sejna
    2004 Junior Lessard
    2005 Martin Sertich

    Not exactly a ringing endorsement for NHL success.
     
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    The List Of Jericho Drink it in man....Go Leafs Go!!

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    Isn't Junior Lessard a fighter/scrapper?

    Edit: I was thinking of Francis Lessard
     
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    Wow..I knew it wasn't a great indicator but I had no idea it was that bad. Seems to kind of be a huge boom/bust kind of thing.
     
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    Most of those winners won the Hobey Baker as college seniors but Matt Carle won it as a junior. I don't think he is going to be great but he is definitely a level up on his peers.

    For example, Kariya won it as a freshman and that is one reason he is heads and shoulders above everyone else on that list.
     
  18. Why is this even a thread?

    Ian White has not played nearly enough games to justify anyone taking him over Carle, given Carle's upside.
     
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    While there are a lot of guys on that list that didn´t make an impact in the NHL, you have to consider the following. The only other JUNIOR to win it on that list is Paul Kariya... All others were seniors... Carle was a junior this year!
     

  20. Huh?

    Kariya played one year at Maine. Led the nation in scoring, won the Hobey, and let the Black Bears to the national championship.
     
  21. CaptainShark

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    Ok, my bad... make a "non-senior" out of the "junior"... ;)
     
  22. Chainshot

    Chainshot Give 'em Enough Rope

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    Ryan Miller was a sophomore when he won it in '01....
     
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    Quess I was misinformed :D, looks like my statement might be totally wrong...

    Sorry!
     
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    The Hobey Baker has been hit-and-miss for prediciting a players future NHL impact. Carle's a fine prospect and it'll be interesting to see if San Jose has yet again tapped into another collegiate blueliner who makes the jump to be a respectable NHLer. White has acquitted himself well in a short time since joining the Leafs yet I agree that there is very little to draw from for comparisons between the two.
     

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