Discussion in 'NHL Draft - Prospects' started by insider, Mar 25, 2006.
This player willl be something special.
Didn't we all say that when Parise scored 3 pts in his first NHL game? WAIT.
Parise scored 2 points in his first game, and yes he is going to be something special.
Carle played 10 minutes tonight. His big boo boo was when he collided with Marleau, which gave Rolston a breakaway to the net, scoring the only Minnesota goal. I don't expect Matt to be a significant factor for San Jose this year, but once he gets adjusted, watch out. I know Malkin will likely win the Calder next year (if he comes over), but Carle is a dark horse candidate.
To be fair, Carle had a bad game. 2 penalties, and his pinch led to the one Wild goal. But that last shot was great. Through a screen and down in the corner.
I agree that he will be special.
So what is Parise a bust according to you? What the hell are you smoking?
The same thing was said about Peter Sejna after he scored in his first game, on Patrick Roy of all goaltenders. I didn't see this game but i think it will take more than one before we label him something special.
Carle had a pretty poor game, but that is to be expected for a player that has played college all year and hasn't even been to an NHL training camp. Not to mention the kid has been playing 30 minutes a game all year with Denver. That shot was something special though, very hard accurate wrist shot that picked the corner.
Nothing to see here. He probably will be something special but he didn't particularly show it tonight even if he did score. My guess is that we won't be able to tell for at least another two years.
If he takes the typical 5-year path of a typical NHL defenseman, he's going to be perceived to be terrible for the next two years before he starts to find his game and then in the fourth or fifth year become really really good. Plenty of young defensemen taking the same scenic route:
Klesla (year 3)
Bouwmeester (year 3)
Ehrhoff (year 2)
Orpik (year 2)
Volchenkov (year 3)
Hamhuis (year 2)
Colaiacovo (essentially year 1)
Gleason (year 2)
Tyutin (year 2)
and some on the tail end of it:
Brewer (year 4)
Boynton (year 4)
Leopold (year 3)
Mara (year 5)
Not everyone is going to be a Pitkanen or Phaneuf or even a Seabrooke.
One could say that some on your list still have not found their games
While Carle does not possess the raw talent of Phaneuf or Pitakanen, he is one of the fastest learners I have ever had the privlege of seeing. Each year he had made significant strides in his game. He is a very mature and intelligent player, and I doubt it would take as long as five years for him to start showing his stuff. I think he will solidify himself as an NHL defenseman within a season, and definitely won't be percieved as "terrible". From then on, I think he will reach his potential very quickly.
J M Liles came out of College and was fairly good immediatly, Carle could go the same route.
``He was on the ice for a goal-against, but that wasn't his fault: Nobody backed him up,'' Wilson said. ``He was nervous at times, but who wouldn't be? There were a lot of things he did so well. It's fun to see a defenseman skate like that.''
i dont know if your just listing them because thats how far out they are but hamhuis is impressive to say the least everytime i see him, tyutin has been good, orpik is a hitter like he was drafted for while being good defensively for the most part, ehrhoff when i see him has been one of those future good PP qb defensemen and volchenkov is a hell of a player as well, so im just hoping ur not saying they are still in the wings of waiting to emerge because many of them are pretty damn good already
There's a grey area between being a bust and something special.
Yes, actually, I think every player on that list will be a lot better than they already are. I'm just saying that with young defensemen you have to be a bit more patient than with a young forward.
Matt Carle will be a great NHL defenceman. He reminds me of Sergei Gonchar with a little more defensive zone responsibility. Give him time he will be our PP quarterback for years to come.
I was at the game...good for him.
you can tell he has a little trouble with the pace of play tho.
San Jose is in very good shape on their blueline for years to come.
Carle picks up an assist with a sweet pass of the binoculars to Grant Stevenson in the press box