Mat Barzal with his 7th 3Point game

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Let's see how he does next year when teams have a game plan for him and the Islanders play some defense.

 

[BruinLVGA]

I wish there was an all encompassing Barzal thread. If anyone whose player gets a 3 points night would make a thread about it, it would become a circus.

So... Mods please make an all & everything thread about Barzal, I beg you.

 

[X66]

Let's see how he does next year when teams have a game plan for him and the Islanders play some defense.

This is actually key, and something I'm looking forward to seeing.

It's not just Barzal, the entire Islanders team doesn't play any defence, I feel bad for their defencemen because the forwards do absolutely nothing to help them. All they care about his padding their stats.

Anyone can do that, but that's why the Islanders are where they are, and other teams are where they are.

 

[Crazy Cizikas]

Whats the point threshold for being thread worthy ? 4, 5 ?

5. Five should be the threshold.

 

[Crazy Cizikas]

Six, we should throw a parade.

 

[Cleatus]

Let's see how he does next year when teams have a game plan for him and the Islanders play some defense.

I personally expect some stat regression due to what you mentioned, plus the fact that he very likely won’t have this many 3 and 5 point games, but I’m sure he’ll still kick ass.

 

[Lahey]

Griffin Reinhart has 2 career NHL points.

Barzal outscored Reinhart's career high in a single game, 7 times this season.

hahahahahhahahahahah oilers omg

 

[Mess]

These 3 point games are really propelling Barzal up the rankings.

In the last 15 years Bazal is doing something statistically only OV, Crosby and Malkin did in their rookie seasons after 59 games.

#1 - OV had 73 points, #2 Malkin 67, #3 Crosby 65, #4 Barzal 62 points after 59 games..

http://hkref.com/tiny/2RJF3

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Let's see how he does next year when teams have a game plan for him and the Islanders play some defense.

This is fair. But I don't think it will affect him too much. His line already gets a lot of attention. Plus that mythical drop off in production sample size argument, hasn't hit yet. He's actually produced better as the season has gone on. He was pointless until he got his 1st pt in his 6th game.

He's just a magnet for offence, and if the Isles build a team with young talent around him, Beauvillier and Bellows. I think Barzal will be fine. They just need to improve their depth on D and G.

 

[SI90]

Let's see how he does next year when teams have a game plan for him and the Islanders play some defense.

Agreed. Every NHL team has conspired together this year right around November when Barzal was proving to be an elite talent. They all agreed not to game plan for him this year and will finally do it next year. They will put all their Defensman on strict workout regimens this summer that makes them a lot faster so they can keep up with Barzal.

Barzal will be lucky to crack 30pts next year after the teams start planning for him.

 

[Mess]

Barzal named NHL Rookie of Month for January

Islanders center had 12 assists, 15 points in 13 games.

NEW YORK - New York Islanders center Mathew Barzal, who led all rookies with 12 assists and 15 points in 13 games (3-12-15), has been named the NHL's Rookie of the Month for January.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Agreed. Every NHL team has conspired together this year right around November when Barzal was proving to be an elite talent. They all agreed not to game plan for him this year and will finally do it next year. They will put all their Defensman on strict workout regimens this summer that makes them a lot faster so they can keep up with Barzal.

Barzal will be lucky to crack 30pts next year after the teams start planning for him.

I would be very excited for the Isles future. The game plan to me is to build the team around him. The Isles already have 2, 1sts, and 2, 2nd rd picks this upcoming draft. They will likely have Bellows ready next year. The new Head Scout Kautonen seems to be a change in direction for the positive for the Isles draft. I mentioned this in the JT thread. I would deal him at the deadling and stock pile even more picks. And if they want JT back, they have all summer to try. Sneaking into the playoffs is not always the best scenario if one has no real possibility winning the Cup. Think Macro not Micro. Barzal is a stud and the Isles should try to build a young team around him.

 

[SI90]

I would be very excited for the Isles future. The game plan to me is to build the team around him. The Isles already have 2, 1sts, and 2, 2nd rd picks this upcoming draft. They will likely have Bellows ready next year. The new Head Scout Kautonen seems to be a change in direction for the positive for the Isles draft. I mentioned this in the JT thread. I would deal him at the deadling and stock pile even more picks. And if they want JT back, they have all summer to try. Sneaking into the playoffs is not always the best scenario if one has no real possibility winning the Cup. Think Macro not Micro. Barzal is a stud and the Isles should try to build a young team around him.

We need stud Defensman. Bouchard Wilde McIsacc those are my favorite guys. Bouchard May be out of reach with his rise and Dahlin is only if you win the lottery. But yes Barzal is a player you can build around.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

We need stud Defensman. Bouchard Wilde McIsacc those are my favorite guys. Bouchard May be out of reach with his rise and Dahlin is only if you win the lottery. But yes Barzal is a player you can build around.

The Hamonic trade was one the Isles did well in. I doubt JT will be dealt. But if he was, and another 1st plus a A prospect came back. The Isles could be not far off if they pick well, and build themselves into a younger skilled team. Really excited for you guys. Barzal is the stud C that teams would love to build around. You got the hardest piece already. Just keep adding young talent around him.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Agreed. Every NHL team has conspired together this year right around November when Barzal was proving to be an elite talent. They all agreed not to game plan for him this year and will finally do it next year. They will put all their Defensman on strict workout regimens this summer that makes them a lot faster so they can keep up with Barzal.

Barzal will be lucky to crack 30pts next year after the teams start planning for him.

It usually takes 6-8 weeks for delivery (more because of the holiday rush) when you order tape on a player. So teams will be getting their packages in the mail soon that they ordered a couple of months ago to help them game plan better. That's why they haven't done it yet.

 

[Mpasta]

Looks like there are some salty Bruins fans in here. It's okay to admit that he's a great player and you wish the Bruins had him.

 

[LordNeverLose]

This is actually key, and something I'm looking forward to seeing.

It's not just Barzal, the entire Islanders team doesn't play any defence, I feel bad for their defencemen because the forwards do absolutely nothing to help them. All they care about his padding their stats.

Anyone can do that, but that's why the Islanders are where they are, and other teams are where they are.

LOL I can tell you don't watch Isles games if you think the forwards are why the defense sucks.

Jesus Christ why even open your mouth

 

[wingnutks]

It usually takes 6-8 weeks for delivery (more because of the holiday rush) when you order tape on a player. So teams will be getting their packages in the mail soon that they ordered a couple of months ago to help them game plan better. That's why they haven't done it yet.

Is this sarcasm?

 

[wingnutks]

LOL I can tell you don't watch Isles games if you think the forwards are why the defense sucks.

Jesus Christ why even open your mouth

Actually the forwards are approximately 33% of why the defense sucks. The other 66% is goalies and Dmen.

 

[Leafs at Knight]

Your opinion is probably quite unpopular amongst your fellow Leaf fans on here.

Most of his opinions are unpopular with us tbf.

Barzal is a beast though.

 

[SI90]

Is this sarcasm?

He’s a well respected poster and a frequent on the isles boards and always welcomed. I’m going to say yes, that was sarcasm

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Agreed. Every NHL team has conspired together this year right around November when Barzal was proving to be an elite talent. They all agreed not to game plan for him this year and will finally do it next year. They will put all their Defensman on strict workout regimens this summer that makes them a lot faster so they can keep up with Barzal.

Barzal will be lucky to crack 30pts next year after the teams start planning for him.

Very defensive.

 

[isles55]

Let's see how he does next year when teams have a game plan for him and the Islanders play some defense.

Defense is all the Islanders play. Barzal's line is the only one that outshoots the opposition consistently.

Next year, the Islanders should plan to do defense better, and therefore give Barzal more opportunities to have the puck and produce offensively.

 

[CodeE]

I'm sure guys like Gretzky, Lemieux, Selanne, Crosby, and Ovechkin who exceeded 100 points as rookies are far beyond Barzal. I just counted quickly and it looks like Selanne had 37 mulit-point games in his rookie season.

Dumb to make this comparison when scoring overall is down across the NHL, even compared to not that long ago.

Crosby starts his career with 102, 120, 103, 109 point seasons. His last three seasons have been 84, 85, 89.

Ovechkin? 106, 92, 112, 110, 109, then a drop to 85, then only one more season over 80 for his career.

Stamkos was putting up 95, 91, 97 seasons, hasn't gotten higher than 72 since.

Last year, McDavid won the Art Ross with 100 points, nobody else in triple digits.
15-16, Kane won the Art Ross with 106 points, nobody else in triple digits.
14-15, Benn won the Art Ross with 87 points.
13-14, Crosby won the Art Ross with 104 points, nobody else in triple digits
12-13, Lockout
11-12, Malkin won the Art Ross with 109 points, nobody else in triple digits
10-11, Daniel Sedin won the Art Ross with 104 points, nobody else in triple digits

So since 2010, I can name 5 NHL players who've gone over 100 points. Just because Crosby, Stamkos, and Ovechkin debuted at a time when scoring was drastically up across the NHL does not mean Barzal should be dragged for not scoring 100 points in 2018.

 

[PWJunior]

He’s a well respected poster and a frequent on the isles boards and always welcomed. I’m going to say yes, that was sarcasm

STK is awesome. He's a wacko, but he's cool like Fonzie.

He was busting your chops.