March 2nd TDL

[Blueline Bomber]

I hope they trade Patrick Dwyer to Chicago

Chicago seems like a good destination for a lot of Carolina's possible trade assets. They were rumored to be looking for a "Skinner-like player" earlier. Skinner's probably off the table, but if Francis is interested in moving Semin, something might be worked out there.

 

[What the Faulk]

How? Don't they have like zero cap room? I only was just joking because they're in Chicago tonight. But Dwyer is a good guy and I don't hate Chicago so it's give me a slight routing interest in them during the playoffs.

 

[A Star is Burns]

Got a link for the stream?

Subscription to hockey streams, so no link, sorry

 

[Blueline Bomber]

How? Don't they have like zero cap room? I only was just joking because they're in Chicago tonight. But Dwyer is a good guy and I don't hate Chicago so it's give me a slight routing interest in them during the playoffs.

We'd have to take some cap back, and likely retain a bit as well, if the trade ever went down.

But mostly, I'd like to see the collective reaction of Twitter/HFboards if it happened.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

We'd have to take some cap back, and likely retain a bit as well, if the trade ever went down.

But mostly, I'd like to see the collective reaction of Twitter/HFboards if it happened.

If we retained 100% this year and 50% for the remainder, and got back a 1st and a top prospect, I'd do that deal in a heartbeat. Semin is done here.

 

[CalUK]

Chicago seems like a good destination for a lot of Carolina's possible trade assets. They were rumored to be looking for a "Skinner-like player" earlier. Skinner's probably off the table, but if Francis is interested in moving Semin, something might be worked out there.

I hope a deal for Semin happens, the BP system clearly doesn't suit him, and I don't think the Canes will be asking much for him, so you never know a change of scenary could be what he needs, and he could be steal for any team that picks him up. He still does have an excellent shot on him.

Out of interest, would do you all think would be his possible value?
I am guessing that any deal would either involve another salary bring moved to the Canes or the Canes retaining part of his salary.

 

[Caniac4ever]

IMO the longer this goes on the less interested they will be about getting value back and more interested in just having it done and over with... not saying when or how, but I would be pretty surprised if Semin is on this team to start next season regardless of what they have to retain and/or what is coming back.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

If we retained 100% this year and 50% for the remainder, and got back a 1st and a top prospect, I'd do that deal in a heartbeat. Semin is done here.

I could be wrong, but I don't think a team can retain higher than 50%

 

[Mikksy]

I hope a deal for Semin happens, the BP system clearly doesn't suit him, and I don't think the Canes will be asking much for him, so you never know a change of scenary could be what he needs, and he could be steal for any team that picks him up. He still does have an excellent shot on him.

Out of interest, would do you all think would be his possible value?
I am guessing that any deal would either involve another salary bring moved to the Canes or the Canes retaining part of his salary.

I'd say his value would hold at a B or C level prospect, a 2nd round pick and the Canes retaining at least $2 million/year on the salary.

Maybe I'm being too harsh on Francis' chances to deal him but that's a tough contract to take on for the team that gets him.

He'll have an easier time riding out this season with him, and perhaps improving his value by the time the offseason comes around. More time to think, less pressure to get something done.

If anyone goes today, I'd say Dwyer. Maybe Jordan/Bellemore.

 

[CalUK]

I'd say his value would hold at a B or C level prospect, a 2nd round pick and the Canes retaining at least $2 million/year on the salary.

Maybe I'm being too harsh on Francis' chances to deal him but that's a tough contract to take on for the team that gets him.

He'll have an easier time riding out this season with him, and perhaps improving his value by the time the offseason comes around. More time to think, less pressure to get something done.

If anyone goes today, I'd say Dwyer. Maybe Jordan/Bellemore.

I do think that maybe Dwyer and Bellemore may move on, but I doubt Jordan will. I think Jordan deserves a chance and these last games of the season is that. I think he has had a good season so far, and can earn himself a place on next years roster. Isn't he an RFA anyway?

If Semin is worth a 2nd and prospect then I'd be happy for him to move now so the Canes have that extra 2nd going into the draft. 2x1st Rnds and 2x2nd Rnds would be great for the team, and the extra cap space would be there to bring in new players via FA.

 

[Carolinas Identity*]

I agree with the poster on the other page. If Toronto ate salary, I would not mind Phaneuf. They are pretty desperate to move him. Could probably be had for cheap.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Rissanen called up.

Someone hurt? Or maybe a precursor to a deal?

 

[spockBokk]

Rissanen recalled...#dominoes...

 

[Carolinas Identity*]

This team needs moar Finns.

 

[My Special Purpose]

Phaneuf for Semin?

 

[Carolinas Identity*]

Both teams eat 2m

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Phaneuf for Semin?

Would do it in a heartbeat. Of course, it's not likely -- "the goal now is extracting as much value as possible for them, which translates either to young players who are high-ceiling projects or draft picks" -- but it does give them a much shorter contract to work with, and I suspect that Phaneuf would be a much better fit for us for the money.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Semin to Toronto would be the worst. The guy doesn't talk to the media. Even Kessel, despite his awkwardness, talks a little to the media and still gets ripped to shreds. Semin wouldn't last a month there.

I'm still holding out hope that the wrist injury was the problem with Semin this year. His shot totals are WAYYYYY lower than normal, so there's evidence that it was definitely affecting him.

If Francis can't find a taker for Semin without salary retention, I wouldn't be surprised to see him in a Canes uniform next year. They'll just hope for a bounce back year similar to the one Ward has had.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

If Francis can't find a taker for Semin without salary retention, I wouldn't be surprised to see him in a Canes uniform next year. They'll just hope for a bounce back year similar to the one Ward has had.

And I wouldn't be surprised if he has one.

 

[Hoffbrau]

Would do it in a heartbeat. Of course, it's not likely -- "the goal now is extracting as much value as possible for them, which translates either to young players who are high-ceiling projects or draft picks" -- but it does give them a much shorter contract to work with, and I suspect that Phaneuf would be a much better fit for us for the money.

what for? Phaneuf can't even skate

 

[Navin R Slavin]

And I wouldn't be surprised if he has one.

I wouldn't be surprised either, and that would be great; it would bolster his trade value.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

And I wouldn't be surprised if he has one.

I wouldn't either, but like Ward, there's no middle ground here. If he bounces back, we could keep him or trade him. If he doesn't, we're stuck with him for the long haul.

 

[Anton Babchuk]

semin has by far the worst PDO of his career this season

i'd be shocked if he doesn't have a bounceback season

 

[w e l o s t b o y s]

Dwyer staying you figure?

#999

 

[Carolinas Identity*]