Management Discussion

[LDF]

Who gets the lion's share of the credit doesn't matter. You can't inherit something that you helped to build. It's not possible. It's just not. Inheritance is something that someone else did entirely, and you get gifted it. Like if my grandpa started a company. I never worked for that company. He died and left me the company entirely in my name. I'm the sole owner even though I've never worked a single day there. That's inheriting something.

When you have a part in making that what it is, which Stan Bowman obviously did, you can not inherit it. As it is partially yours already.

again in this analogy does not work here.

reason is SB was part of the scouting dept that helped get the core ..... that same core that was inherited and thru his talents build into the other 2 cups.

the same way he screwed it up by signing stupid contracts that ruins a one in the lifetime dynasty.

 

[LDF]

Ok, so with you saying that. How can Stan Bowman "inherit" something that he helped to build?

Again, and I'll make the example more relevant. My brother and I start... a sports team. We build that sports team with our joint decision making, and it becomes an amazing organization. My brother is GM, and I'm assistant GM. My brother dies, and I'm now the GM. Did I inherit the team that I helped to build?

b/c at the time he was not in charge, he was employee .... Tallon was in charge.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

again in this analogy does not work here.

reason is SB was part of the scouting dept that helped get the core ..... that same core that was inherited and thru his talents build into the other 2 cups.

the same way he screwed it up by signing stupid contracts that ruins a one in the lifetime dynasty.

Holy shit, it's like someone grabbed a bunch of random words out of a bag and threw them at a wall.

 

[Marotte Marauder]

I'm glad you edited your interpretation of what an inheritance is.

Now you have it correctly.

 

[ChiHawks10]

b/c at the time he was not in charge, he was employee .... Tallon was in charge.

What does this have to do with anything?

How can someone not understand that you can't inherit something that you helped to build? It's. not. possible.

My analogies are fine. It's not my fault you can't seem to understand them...

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

i like it. meaning your response.

I read this in Perd Hapley's voice.

 

[LDF]

No you haven't. You've been agreeing with BWC that Stan inherited the entire core like he did nothing to help build it. BWC is stating that Stan inherited the entire core. And had nothing to do with building the core.

That's what you've been agreeing with. And that's factually wrong.

did SB inherit the key core. were they, the core part of the team when SB ascended to the mantle of the GM ???

 

[LDF]

Ok, so with you saying that. How can Stan Bowman "inherit" something that he helped to build?

Again, and I'll make the example more relevant. My brother and I start... a sports team. We build that sports team with our joint decision making, and it becomes an amazing organization. My brother is GM, and I'm assistant GM. My brother dies, and I'm now the GM. Did I inherit the team that I helped to build?

lolol ..... oh brother, no pun intended, but these analogies are just too funny. well it all depends on the will.

 

[ChiHawks10]

did SB inherit the key core. were they, the core part of the team when SB ascended to the mantle of the GM ???

Yes, they were. But if you have a decision in selecting those players. If you have a "vote" so to speak. If you have any kind of insight into the process, and into who is selected. And I would argue easily that the Director of Hockey Operations, and Assistant GM have a "vote" in it. You can't inherit it. Because you helped build it. You were an integral piece of what led to those players being selected. The "mouthpiece". The person who reads the selection on stage doesn't get to claim 100% of the decision if he didn't make 100% of the decision... That's not how this works.

 

[ChiHawks10]

lolol ..... oh brother, no pun intended, but these analogies are just too funny. well it all depends on the will.

And on this note, I'm done. My f***ing head is going to explode.

 

[LDF]

No you haven't. You've been agreeing with BWC that Stan inherited the entire core like he did nothing to help build it. BWC is stating that Stan inherited the entire core. And had nothing to do with building the core.

That's what you've been agreeing with. And that's factually wrong.

and i was right..... no where in the discussion was there any fraction of who was responsible, key person who made all the selections. SB did inherit the core, no where is it mention that the scouting department involvement .

 

[LDF]

Yes, they were. But if you have a decision in selecting those players. If you have a "vote" so to speak. If you have any kind of insight into the process, and into who is selected. And I would argue easily that the Director of Hockey Operations, and Assistant GM have a "vote" in it. You can't inherit it. Because you helped build it. You were an integral piece of what led to those players being selected. The "mouthpiece". The person who reads the selection on stage doesn't get to claim 100% of the decision if he didn't make 100% of the decision... That's not how this works.

you are confusing 2 different responsibilities here. the responsibility of the dept who all works to come up with a list of names to key on for the draft, and the person who is in charge of that department.

 

[ChiHawks10]

and i was right..... no where in the discussion was there any fraction of who was responsible, key person who made all the selections. SB did inherit the core, no where is it mention that the scouting department involvement .

WTF...

 

[ChiHawks10]

you are confusing 2 different responsibilities here. the responsibility of the dept who all works to come up with a list of names to key on for the draft, and the person who is in charge of that department.

No, I'm not! You're trying to say that because Dale Tallon read the damn names in the draft, that he gets to claim all the credit! Even though numerous people had a huge part in it, and even bigger part in it than he did! Are you f***ing kidding me?

So Dale Tallon takes credit for everyone else's work because he was in charge and read the names in the draft?

Yeah, I'm done. I want to pluck my eyes out with knives, and then drive those knives through each of my ears afterwards, at this point. Someone put me out of my misery.

 

[LDF]

No, I'm not! You're trying to say that because Dale Tallon read the damn names in the draft, that he gets to claim all the credit! Even though numerous people had a huge part in it, and even bigger part in it than he did! Are you ****ing kidding me?

So Dale Tallon takes credit for everyone else's work because he was in charge and read the names in the draft?

and in that same logic, SB gets all the credit for every selection since he inherited the mantle of GM. no other person in that department get any credit for anything. SB goes to all corners of the hockey world to scout out these player personally ..... he gets no support what so ever.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

No, I'm not! You're trying to say that because Dale Tallon read the damn names in the draft, that he gets to claim all the credit! Even though numerous people had a huge part in it, and even bigger part in it than he did! Are you ****ing kidding me?

So Dale Tallon takes credit for everyone else's work because he was in charge and read the names in the draft?

Yeah, I'm done. I want to pluck my eyes out with knives, and then drive those knives through each of my ears afterwards, at this point.

Dude, you need to be careful. I think LDF is trying to lure you in and steal your soul.

This is one of the most baffling arguments I've seen him get in.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

LDF is legitimately making arguments for both sides. It's inception level arguing.

 

[ChiHawks10]

and in that same logic, SB gets all the credit for every selection since he inherited the mantle of GM. no other person in that department get any credit for anything. SB goes to all corners of the hockey world to scout out these player personally ..... he gets no support what so ever.

Of course not. Where did I say that?

 

[ChiHawks10]

LDF is legitimately making arguments for both sides. It's inception level arguing.

It's the most ninja, samurai, Matrix-esque, 10D chess shit I've ever seen. It's like I'm talking to two separate people each post I make...

 

[AmericanDream]

man I miss the days when our biggest problem was arguing over who belonged on our 4th line..how the mighty have fallen...

 

[ChiHawks10]

man I miss the days when our biggest problem was arguing over who belonged on our 4th line..how the mighty have fallen...

I'd be happy with an argument I actually understand/comprehend.

 

[LDF]

to all..... it was great talking about Bhawks hockey and the differing of opinions. i hope i didn't get anyone mad.

peace.

 

[RememberTheRoar]

to all..... it was great talking about Bhawks hockey and the differing of opinions. i hope i didn't get anyone mad.

peace.

The equivalent of a dinner guest spilling food all over your furniture, stepping in dog poo and tracking through the house, peeing all over the side of the toilet, and breaking the fish tank on his way out.

"I had a great time, hope I didn't make too much of a mess."

 

[Blue Liner]

First time on since Friday. Just read the last few pages. That is part of my life I will never get back. Holy. Hell.

 

[BK]

First time on since Friday. Just read the last few pages. That is part of my life I will never get back. Holy. Hell.

I wore my foil hat while reading add my head still hurt.