Based on all reports I've ever heard.
Is the SEL even the best league in Scandinavia?
Plus that SEL has many even teams this year. Anyone can virtually win, and not 2-3 teams that are superior the others. The finnish league is also good, but it doesn't have the money to compete with SEL. More talented europeans prefer SEL to the finnish league for that sole reason. Look at the lockout season. Many high profile players from NHL played in SEL that year.
RSL is known to be the best league outside the NHL.SEL is wideley known as the best leuage outside of NHL. I can agree that RSL is equal, but other than that your reports are off.
RSL is known to be the best league outside the NHL.
I actually specifically quoted and was referring to and in fact quoted one post that said that 'you guys are in for a surprise. the gap is alot closer then you imagine.' Though others have said similar. I stand by my statement. I have heard it all before. Don't get me wrong, Kopitar seems to be a fine player. As were and are the ones in the threads that I pulled up. Malkin however is in another class entirely. He is every bit the prospect that Crosby and Ovechkin were coming into their rookie years.
I'm a Ranger fan, but the Kings are one of my top 5 favorites in the NHL, and I LOVE Kopitar... whoever said he doesn't have that breakaway speed obviously didn't see Anze's first goal when he made Chris Pronger look like a schoolboy.
That being said... Malkin is just unreal.
Malkin was the consensus "best player not playing in the NHL" last year. Malkin is a generational talent that comes along once or twice every 10-15 years. He is just absolutely FILTHY.
Malkin by a landslide on this one, but let's discount Anze here... he's pretty damn good himself.
I doubt that RSL could be called the second league in the world. It is a one-nation league with foreign goalkepeers.
Well, you can have your doubts but it is commonly known that RSL is the best league in the world after the NHL.
Here is Kopitars 3rd goal and an interview after the game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bataCpJnkyU
I have heard it before:
Me: Prucha better than Crosby
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=206746&highlight=Prucha+Crosby
Stan Fischler: Prucha better than Crosby
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=204420&highlight=Prucha+Crosby
the five or so Parise >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crosby threads that i think the original posters deleted in shame recently.
The Vanek >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crosby threads.
..........and on and on. Believe me, unless this one is deleted as well, I will gladly pull this one up in a year to have a good laugh over too.
I think Malkin is better, but the gap isn't as big as many people thought going into the season. As impressive as Kopitar's start is, though, I think Malkin's would have been moreso.
Last year in the RSL, Malkin had 21g, 26a for 47 pts in 46 games.
Last year in the SEL, Kopitar had 8g, 12a for 20 pts in 47 games.
Malkin is one year, three weeks older than Kopitar. Both were playing in a pro league. I leave it to the Swedes and Russians to argue which is a tougher league, but I would give the edge to the SEL. Regardless, scoring is low in both leagues as assists are tougher to come by.
I've seen highlights of Malkin and his skating is very impressive for a big man. Kopitar moves well, too, but he doesn't have the breakaway speed that Malkin does. Some of the highlights I've seen, he looks like a runaway freight train. That's my two cents. Next?
In the "Thinking the game" area, Kopitar doesn't even come close.
Skating I rank Malkin higher because of the speed
Moves I rank Malkin higher.
I agree, you made the best points. Only time can tell though as they are still very young. Im a Kings fan.Malkin is the better player but not by a boatload, From what i hear Kopitar is rounding up his defensive game, which is closing the gap even more. NOW, Malkin has Extremely good Defense so thats where i think the margin lies. He will be the Next Sergei Federov.
I see their offensive games to be very close together. Malkin i think has a SLIGHT advantage offensively id put him in the 110-120 point potential.. while Kopitar at 110 flat.
In the "Thinking the game" area, Kopitar doesn't even come close.
Skating I rank Malkin higher because of the speed
Moves I rank Malkin higher.
They both look close enough, and the dreaded "one year younger" argument can be used in favor of Kopitar.
Look Wikegård said it the best way, the best players in the Finnish league goes to the SEL, the players in Sweden who don't get contracts, goes the other way. Thats pretty much a fact.