M_B's Mock Draft - Discussion Thread

[Ajacied]

Idea - Whatabout also posting your team's PP and PK line-ups? The whole thing.. I mean teams can look so nice but have putrid special teams. Special teams are utterly crucial and essential during the playoffs.

 

[Riggins]

Good idea. We should all have ours posted before we send in our rankings at the end of the draft.

 

[Ajacied]

First full roster ready to be critisized, heavily favorite's Detroit:

Gary Roberts - Pavel Datsyuk - Alexei Kovalev
Henrik Zetterberg - Mike Peca - Milan Hejduk
Chris Drury - Joe Nieuwendyk - Scott Walker
Sergei Brylin - Alyn McCauley - Jeff Halpern
Tomas Holmstrom

Brian Leetch - Steve Staios
Dmitri Kalinin - Rhett Warrener
Ossi Vaananen - Joni Pitkanen

Ed Belfour
Robert Esche

Everyone is in love with his squad, so I'll try to be rather pessimistic, hope S[itfire doesn't mind..

First off, I instantly notice the lack of a true elite superstar, naturally due to the fact he didn't have a 1st or a 2nd round pick. I can't recall a recent Stanley Cup winner that did not have an elite superstar (Forsberg/Sakic, Modano, Brodeur, Fedorov/Lidstrom).. It's essential, so thats critical point numero uno.

Secondly, there are a lot of older players on the team with health issue's. Now this wouldn't be much of a problem if those were to be mere roleplayers, but we're talking about the starting netminder and top flight left winger here. Roberts and Belfour are not a guarentee, yet they are heavily relied upon.

Third, his center trio might be a nice mix of skill and grit, but all three remain somewhat on the small side, and here too, have the latter two history of injuries..

Fourth; his entire 4th line consists of centers, so he has 2 players playing out of position.

Last but not least, 50% of his defense consists out of players of 25 or younger. Not sure this is all that bad, but I'm trying ot be crititcal..

 

[Riggins]

Detroit is obviously one of the favourites, that being said here are the things I notice:

- ton of depth, though no real superstars

- several players who have Cup rings

- defense is good, but not great. He does have a solid mix of offensive and defensive defensemen

- I have doubts as to how many goals Hejduk would score with Peca as his center

- if Belfour went down, Esche is a very capable replacement

 

[NeoCanuck]

Someone want to critique my team so far?

 

[Ajacied]

- I have doubts as to how many goals Hejduk would score with Peca as his center

Good point.. Peca isn't exactly known for his playmaking skills. We'll see how he does in the playoffs (read polls)..

My forward pack is completed now (save my extra forward), be free to comment;

Mike York - Peter Forsberg - Jeff O'Neill
Ryan Smyth (A) - Mario Lemieux (C) - Petr Sykora
Jeff Friesen - Dave Scatchard - Langenbrunner
Raffi Torres - Stu Barnes - Scott Thornton​

 

[BuppY]

Good point.. Peca isn't exactly known for his playmaking skills. We'll see how he does in the playoffs (read polls)..

My forward pack is completed now (save my extra forward), be free to comment;

Mike York - Peter Forsberg - Jeff O'Neill
Ryan Smyth (A) - Mario Lemieux (C) - Petr Sykora
Jeff Friesen - Dave Scatchard - Langenbrunner
Raffi Torres - Stu Barnes - Scott Thornton​

Thas a very impressive forward set. Great JOB.

 

[Riggins]

My forward pack is completed now (save my extra forward), be free to comment;

Mike York - Peter Forsberg - Jeff O'Neill
Ryan Smyth (A) - Mario Lemieux (C) - Petr Sykora
Jeff Friesen - Dave Scatchard - Langenbrunner
Raffi Torres - Stu Barnes - Scott Thornton​

Very impressive forward set.

- Forsberg and Lemieux are obviously two of the very best playmakers in the game. There is a big injury concern though.

- You have a great amount of grit, something needed in the playoffs... Smyth, O'Neill, Scatchard, Langenbrunner, Torres, Thornton..

- 5 of your forwards are Stanley Cup winners

 

[12# Peter Bondra]

Bringing this up with rosters being almost ready.

If anybody wants to analyse something, here you have my forward corps:

Patrik Elias - Pavol Demitra - Zigmund Palffy
Erik Cole - Michal Handzus - Mark Recchi
Steve Konowalchuk - Steve Rucchin - Steve Reinprecht
Andrei Nikolishin - Tim Taylor - Dan Hinote
Peter Bondra

 

[NeoCanuck]

Calgary Flames​

Lines: Forwards​

LW C RW

Markus Naslund(C) - Brendan Morrison - Todd Bertuzzi

Steve Sullivan - Radek Bonk - Trent Hunter

Jay Pandolfo - Kris Draper(A) - Mike Knuble

Chris Simon - Vincent Damphousse - Mattias Weinhandl​

Lines: Defencemen​

LD RD​

Wade Redden(A) - Adrian Aucoin

John Micheal Liles - Brad Lukowich

Vladimir Malakhov - XXXX​

Lines: Goalies​

Starting Goaltender:

Andrew Raycroft​

Back Up Goaltender:
Chris Osgood​

3rd String Back-Up:
Martin Gerber​

Reserve Players:​

Captain:
Markus Naslund​

Alternate Captain:
Wade Redden​

Alternate Captain:
Kris Draper​

I have one more Defensemen to pick, but none the less, My team is done.

Any thoughts?

 

[NeoCanuck]

Bringing this up with rosters being almost ready.

If anybody wants to analyse something, here you have my forward corps:

Patrik Elias - Pavol Demitra - Zigmund Palffy
Erik Cole - Michal Handzus - Mark Recchi
Steve Konowalchuk - Steve Rucchin - Steve Reinprecht
Andrei Nikolishin - Tim Taylor - Dan Hinote
Peter Bondra

I like the top line, Demitra and Palffy were great in the WHC. Elias has cup expierience, great 1st line. You might have a grit problem though, but Palffy might make that up, since I haven't seen him play.

Second Line is solid, Cole brings great speed, Handzus brings a mullet and grit. Recchi brings expierience and strength.

3rd line is so-so. Rucchin is injury prone and I don't think he should be given Grind Line time. Reinprecht is good, and I don't know much about Kono, but I heard he's a great 2 way player.

4th line is good, Niko and Hinote being energy, line Taylor brings expierience.

Id give your forward corps a 8/10, the 3rd line drew me off..

 

[12# Peter Bondra]

I like the top line, Demitra and Palffy were great in the WHC. Elias has cup expierience, great 1st line. You might have a grit problem though, but Palffy might make that up, since I haven't seen him play.

Second Line is solid, Cole brings great speed, Handzus brings a mullet and grit. Recchi brings expierience and strength.

3rd line is so-so. Rucchin is injury prone and I don't think he should be given Grind Line time. Reinprecht is good, and I don't know much about Kono, but I heard he's a great 2 way player.

4th line is good, Niko and Hinote being energy, line Taylor brings expierience.

Id give your forward corps a 8/10, the 3rd line drew me off..

Rucchin isnt injury prone. He used to be (VERY) but he has played 164 NHL games in a row now. He has played all 82 games the past 2 seasons. Rucchin was the no.1 C during Kariya/Selanne times so IMO he could handle 12-15 minutes a game.

 

[NeoCanuck]

Rucchin isnt injury prone. He used to be (VERY) but he has played 164 NHL games in a row now. He has played all 82 games the past 2 seasons. Rucchin was the no.1 C during Kariya/Selanne times so IMO he could handle 12-15 minutes a game.

My bad, I just recalled in my head that Rucchin was Injury Prone.

 

[12# Peter Bondra]

My bad, I just recalled in my head that Rucchin was Injury Prone.

3-4 seasons ago he was VERY injury prone but thankfully he isnt anymore.

And I took Reinprecht so I could have a Steve line (Kono, Rucchin and Reinprecht) .

 

[Amadeus]

​

Alex Tanguay - Steve Yzerman - Marion Gaborik
Martin Erat - Joesef Vasicek - Marco Sturm
Darcy Tucker - John Madden - Matt Cooke
Peter Schaefer - Wes Walz - Scott Hartnell

Brad Stuart - Scott Hannan
Tomas Kaberle - Corey Sarich
Patrice Brisboise - Glen Wesley

Rick DiPietro​

i would love to hear some comments.

 

[Ajacied]

​

Alex Tanguay - Steve Yzerman - Marion Gaborik
Martin Erat - Joesef Vasicek - Marco Sturm
Darcy Tucker - John Madden - Matt Cooke
Peter Schaefer - Wes Walz - Scott Hartnell

Brad Stuart - Scott Hannan
Tomas Kaberle - Corey Sarich
Patrice Brisboise - Glen Wesley

Rick DiPietro​

i would love to hear some comments.

Like jtuzzi said, a lovely top 6 but your top 6 has some uncertainties.

Your defense is well balanced. You definitely need to pick an experiened goalie though.

You will be a threat.

 

[Shoalzie]

I've completed my starting lineup (the Rangers)...

Simon Gagne-Joe Sakic-Bill Guerin
Fredrik Modin-Patrick Marleau-Glen Murray
Ray Whitney-Marc Savard-David Vyborny
Shawn McEachern-Patrice Bergeron-Maxim Afinogenov

Mathieu Schneider-Darryl Sydor
Dick Tarnstrom-Brendan Witt
Karlis Skrastins-Tom Poti

Marty Turco
Patrick Lalime


I should be able to put the puck in the net and I'm going to have a strong power play. I lack a shutdown defenseman and a defensive 3rd or 4th line...the pressure will be on Turco to keep the puck out of the net. He'll probably face 30+ shots a night. Hopefully my offense picks him up from time-to-time. I've got enough skill up front to compete with any team but I lack grit...a tougher team will push my guys around. I really don't have an enforcer on the blueline other than Witt...some of my stars could use protection. Guerin could drop the gloves if he has to also.

Thoughts?

 

[Ajacied]

I've completed my starting lineup (the Rangers)...

Simon Gagne-Joe Sakic-Bill Guerin
Fredrik Modin-Patrick Marleau-Glen Murray
Ray Whitney-Marc Savard-David Vyborny
Shawn McEachern-Patrice Bergeron-Maxim Afinogenov

Mathieu Schneider-Darryl Sydor
Dick Tarnstrom-Brendan Witt
Karlis Skrastins-Tom Poti

Marty Turco
Patrick Lalime


I should be able to put the puck in the net and I'm going to have a strong power play. I lack a shutdown defenseman and a defensive 3rd or 4th line...the pressure will be on Turco to keep the puck out of the net. He'll probably face 30+ shots a night. Hopefully my offense picks him up from time-to-time. I've got enough skill up front to compete with any team but I lack grit...a tougher team will push my guys around. I really don't have an enforcer on the blueline other than Witt...some of my stars could use protection. Guerin could drop the gloves if he has to also.

Thoughts?

That first line is sick.. Heck, the 2nd line should be one of the better ones out there as well. Not too fond of your bottom 6 forwards, to be frank. They are too one sided and soft, but they do bring plenty of offense. You probably have the fastest team around. Nice mix of offense/defense on the blue line as well. Plus a nice tandem in net.

 

[NeoCanuck]

Calgary Flames​

Lines: Forwards​

LW C RW

Markus Naslund(C) - Brendan Morrison - Todd Bertuzzi

Steve Sullivan - Radek Bonk - Trent Hunter

Jay Pandolfo - Kris Draper(A) - Mike Knuble

Chris Simon - Vincent Damphousse - Mattias Weinhandl​

Lines: Defencemen​

LD RD​

Wade Redden(A) - Adrian Aucoin

John Micheal Liles - Brad Lukowich

Vladimir Malakhov - Jiri Slegr​

Lines: Goalies​

Starting Goaltender:

Andrew Raycroft​

Back Up Goaltender:
Chris Osgood​

What do you guys think of my roster?

 

[TomahawkSniper]

San Jose Sharks

Roster:​

Sergei Samsonov--Joe Thornton--Brendan Shanahan
John LeClair--Saku Koivu--Martin Havlat
Nils Ekman--Mike Ricci--Ruslan Fedotenko
Luc Robitaille--Stephane Yelle--Darren McCarty
Extra: Nathan Horton

Mattias Ohlund--Jordan Leopold
Willie Mitchell--Aaron Miller
Dion Phaneuf--Andrew Ference

David Aebischer
Marc-Andre Fleury​

​

What do you guys think of my roster?

 

[BuppY]

ST LOUIS

Kariya Fedorov Hossa
Moginly Allison Nolan
Lindros Arnott Hecht
Pyatt Dowd Hall

Regehr Hamerlik
Brewer Boyle
Desjardins Markov


Biron
Lehtonen

 

[hockeyfan125]

Roster:

Radek Dvorak - Ollie Jokinen - Shane Doan (A)
Andrew Brunette - David Legwand - Jonathan Cheechoo
Mark Bell - Shawn Horcoff - Jere Lehtinen
Ron Francis - Rob Niedermayer - Matthew Barnaby

Kim Johnsson - Adam Foote (C)
Pavel Kubina - Andy Sutton
Colin White - Dan Hamhuis
Al MacInnis

Martin Brodeur


Don't know... I like this team, great balance. It is not the best in this draft by far, and that dissapoints me. Oh well.. Any comments.

 

[BEAUlieve]

Edmonton Oilers

Ilya Kovalchuk - Daniel Briere - Miroslav Satan
Ladislav Nagy - Mike Comrie - Richard Zednik
Ryan Malone - Nik Antropov - Mike LeClerc
Martin Gelinas - Daymond Langkow - Mark Parrish
Extra: Andrew Cassels

Ed Jovanovski - Brian Rafalski
Kyle McLaren - Derek Morris
Jon Klemm - Brent Sopel

Evgeni Nabokov
Dwayne Roloson​

What do you guys think of my roster?

 

[hockeyfan125]

Edmonton Oilers

Ilya Kovalchuk - Daniel Briere - Miroslav Satan
Ladislav Nagy - Mike Comrie - Richard Zednik
Ryan Malone - Nik Antropov - Mike LeClerc
Martin Gelinas - Daymond Langkow - Mark Parrish
Extra: Andrew Cassels

Ed Jovanovski - Brian Rafalski
Kyle McLaren - Derek Morris
Jon Klemm - Brent Sopel

Evgeni Nabokov
Dwayne Roloson​

What do you guys think of my roster?

great scoring offense, but soft as hell. like your defense and goaltending.