London Knights 2018 Offseason Thread
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If you mean less than normal deadline value because sellers flooded the market, yeah; but London could really put the screws to Erie, Windsor, & possibly OS by putting Jones, Pu, Formenton, Raaymakers... on the market.
I didn't mean much, I just wrote it for the reaction , I guess it doesn't mean much to others as well.
We're having a heck of a time finishing plays around the net, or that we're always playing against better then average goaltenders.
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Plenty of you have expressed that should Mete be returned, everything changes for the better, and at that point the team should be looking to add. Sorry, but I disagree. One player doesn't make a team....never has, and never will. I'm willing to concede that Mete adds a top d-man, and that he does help to control the offensive breakout, which helps greatly. However, his inability to control the bigger players physically isn't an asset, and that's his achilles heel. So, although he adds , he also has a shortcoming that all of his skill and skating ability just can't correct. He isn't the second coming of Bobby Orr. If anything, his return will cloud the issue of whether to sell or buy, but probably isn't enough to take this team over the top this season.
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Even with Mete ,this team is still average.
Give me a Logan Stanley then you would see a quantum improvement.
Give me a Logan Stanley then you would see a quantum improvement.
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GobigorGohome
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But he Would bump Jacob Golden.
That Is a positive in itself.
What is missing is a Dominate force on the backend.
Logan Stanley,Middleton to name a few.
No more undersized skilly types.
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This team, also needs a Better than average goalie,kinda like the guy from Niagara that stoned the Knights,
P.S. Kooy played well in replacing Raay.
P.S. Kooy played well in replacing Raay.
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More like such a terrible call. Formenton has his foot straddling the blue line when Thomas was already 2 feet into the zone!
Still not the best decision by Thomas making that move. Along with that terrible giveaway earlier in the game.
Oh well, a win is a win. Great play by Pu on the GWG forcing the turnover.
This ones for Fan since 65
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This team is so meh. I don’t see Mete being enough to bother going all in. I think burning assets would be a mistake.
Trade Jones, Pu and Mete if he’s returned to Missy for the rights to Hughes and some other stuff. Might as well trade for Quinn Hughes rights as well.
Depends on the next seven games in 11 days IMO. If they do quite well, then I can see them sticking with what they've got. Otherwise, it would not be terrible to start looking towards later years.
That being said, I do not think it'll all be picks. I can see them trading away picks or certain young players in order to acquire guys who could stick around for 2 or 3 years (i.e. like Sudbury did with Nizhinikov). It could be easily be a quick turnaround if London can pick up a couple of really good imports or convince some of their good NCAA prospects to come in, so really only the OA's and good 98's (plus Thomas/Bouchard if you really believe they will not come back next year) who would need to be sold.
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I've been a part of the "buy if Mete returns" camp, but sometimes I look at SSM's 16-game winning streak and the lack of bottom production from the bottom 6 and think...why bother?
I don't envy Rob Simpson right now. Options:
1) Buy when there are teams that are much better built
2) Sell in an over-saturated market, when the team has essentially no chance of being competitive next year (even year after next will be tough with Bouchard's depature)
3) Stand pat...and become a mediocre team for the foreseeable future
Bottom line is we need to draft better to avoid situations like this. Inability to hit on our forward picks in the first 2 round of 2016 draft is really hurting us...and I'm not a big fan of our 2017 1st.
I don't envy Rob Simpson right now. Options:
1) Buy when there are teams that are much better built
2) Sell in an over-saturated market, when the team has essentially no chance of being competitive next year (even year after next will be tough with Bouchard's depature)
3) Stand pat...and become a mediocre team for the foreseeable future
Bottom line is we need to draft better to avoid situations like this. Inability to hit on our forward picks in the first 2 round of 2016 draft is really hurting us...and I'm not a big fan of our 2017 1st.
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I really think we either get some really good young talent or we trade the two first rounders that you are talking about. I just think we either need Foudy and Rowe to step it up or we gotta get rid of them as they would still have value (Being 1st Rounders and still pretty young) What has happened to our scouting staff? Why dont we take the risks anymore with the high end Americans
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the part about selling I like is if Mete gets sent backwe have the best defenseman available if we sell
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Mark Hunter, Basil McRae and Lindsay Hofford moved onI really think we either get some really good young talent or we trade the two first rounders that you are talking about. I just think we either need Foudy and Rowe to step it up or we gotta get rid of them as they would still have value (Being 1st Rounders and still pretty young) What has happened to our scouting staff? Why dont we take the risks anymore with the high end Americans
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London Knights 4-3 Win over Petes OT
Dale is pushing for Wins to ensure the Knights make the Play-Offs.
The OHL has a lot of parity this season.
On any given night a 'higher points team' can be beaten and be 'stoned' by a hot Goalie.
The Knights have met a few goalies this season who've performed very well.
Even though the bottom 6 do not have the point totals that you'd like to
see on a good team, one can see that players like Billy Moskal and Liam Foudy are improving and looking like solid OHL players every game.
The Knights could easily slip into the #6th or 7th spot in the Western Conference.
If the following scenario manifests where a guy like Brady Tkachuk decides to play in London, Simpson get an import or two, trades for a 'stay at home' Left handed D-Man and the hope that Victor Mete is returned to London from the Montreal Canadiens.
Do you go for it?
Absolutely!!
That would mean a significant shift of 4-5 players who would change the fortunes of the Knights as legitimate contenders in the O.
Those are a lot of 'ifs' but a few 'tweaks' could be very positive for this team.
Other teams know that the 'top end talent' of the Knights is as good any team in the league.
Otherwise the Knights end up 'in the middle of the ocean' deciding which direction they need to go............try to win now and hope for the best against deeper teams or build for the future and trade 2-3 of their star players for good young players and draft picks.
Ryan Pyette LFP Article:
Tyler Rollo: Comparing the Petes and the Knights
“Both our teams are in the same boat, trying to get going,” Rollo said. “I know they (the Petes) have hit a rough patch from talking to some of my friends and even looking at the video. I feel like we’re are faster. Our top lines are more skilled. I’ve got used to the speed (over here) and I really just hope for the best.”
Cole Tymkin:
He gave the thumbs up to Billy Moskal’s efforts in his first OHL fisticuffs a
few minutes earlier.
“He held his own, for sure,” the rugged winger said.
Tymkin said his recovery was limited to “sitting around and watching the games,” before joining the club’s younger players for skating sessions. He has seen some growth in the rookies and sophomores.
“They’re really coming along. even off the ice, it’s meshing together well,” he said. “We’re brothers right now, but by the end of the year (after more time),
we’ll really be together.”
Rollo rolls with new mates
Dale is pushing for Wins to ensure the Knights make the Play-Offs.
The OHL has a lot of parity this season.
On any given night a 'higher points team' can be beaten and be 'stoned' by a hot Goalie.
The Knights have met a few goalies this season who've performed very well.
Even though the bottom 6 do not have the point totals that you'd like to
see on a good team, one can see that players like Billy Moskal and Liam Foudy are improving and looking like solid OHL players every game.
The Knights could easily slip into the #6th or 7th spot in the Western Conference.
If the following scenario manifests where a guy like Brady Tkachuk decides to play in London, Simpson get an import or two, trades for a 'stay at home' Left handed D-Man and the hope that Victor Mete is returned to London from the Montreal Canadiens.
Do you go for it?
Absolutely!!
That would mean a significant shift of 4-5 players who would change the fortunes of the Knights as legitimate contenders in the O.
Those are a lot of 'ifs' but a few 'tweaks' could be very positive for this team.
Other teams know that the 'top end talent' of the Knights is as good any team in the league.
Otherwise the Knights end up 'in the middle of the ocean' deciding which direction they need to go............try to win now and hope for the best against deeper teams or build for the future and trade 2-3 of their star players for good young players and draft picks.
Ryan Pyette LFP Article:
Tyler Rollo: Comparing the Petes and the Knights
“Both our teams are in the same boat, trying to get going,” Rollo said. “I know they (the Petes) have hit a rough patch from talking to some of my friends and even looking at the video. I feel like we’re are faster. Our top lines are more skilled. I’ve got used to the speed (over here) and I really just hope for the best.”
Cole Tymkin:
He gave the thumbs up to Billy Moskal’s efforts in his first OHL fisticuffs a
few minutes earlier.
“He held his own, for sure,” the rugged winger said.
Tymkin said his recovery was limited to “sitting around and watching the games,” before joining the club’s younger players for skating sessions. He has seen some growth in the rookies and sophomores.
“They’re really coming along. even off the ice, it’s meshing together well,” he said. “We’re brothers right now, but by the end of the year (after more time),
we’ll really be together.”
Rollo rolls with new mates
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zman77
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Thanks Fischhaber...............spelling is not my strong suit.
I made the correct change above.
along with rule changes to even the playing field, other teams now take the "risky" American kids that the Knights used to land; so if they don't hit in the Euro draft, it puts us in a tough spot
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I really think we either get some really good young talent or we trade the two first rounders that you are talking about. I just think we either need Foudy and Rowe to step it up or we gotta get rid of them as they would still have value (Being 1st Rounders and still pretty young) What has happened to our scouting staff? Why dont we take the risks anymore with the high end Americans
They do still draft Amercans. Look no furhter back than a couple our more promising D. Last years 4th rd pick and some guy whose brother dropped by for a year n played with DVO n Marner.
Drafting in general? Maybe Hofford n Hunter make the difference? Im sure they still have input but....
Maybe 2016 was just a bad draft?
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LOL that was a good one
That Pu's no trade clause was broken when he accepted to a trade to London
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