Confirmed with Link: Leafs acquire Pickard

[Bluelines]

Time to bring Pickard up and let him start. Give the team a chance at least.

Why?

 

[Slot]

Time to bring Pickard up and let him start. Give the team a chance at least.

Id wait until McelHinney loses, no need to rush, Pickard will get his chance after January to play games with the Leafs.

What is wrong with you two? Pickard passed through waivers. 29 other teams didn't think he'd be enough of an improvement on even their backup that and you're trying to make him a starter? Give your heads a shake.

 

[MR4]

What is wrong with you two? Pickard passed through waivers. 29 other teams didn't think he'd be enough of an improvement on even their backup that and you're trying to make him a starter? Give your heads a shake.

Marty St Louis wasn't even drafted, TBL were idiots to play him in 1000 games

 

[Slot]

Marty St Louis wasn't even drafted, TBL were idiots to play him in 1000 games

That's an asinine statement of equivalency. Calvin Pickard isn't an unknown quantity. MSL was an undersized kid who was passed over despite his evident skill because at the time the NHL was a league dominated by hulking power forwards and everyone thought he wouldn't survive.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Andersen has not played poorly at all. Again, the defensive play of this team is pretty bad. He can only do so much. 17 scoring chances against in last night's game. Way too many.

 

[smitty10]

Subban went down last night for Vegas. They're going to need a stop gap while Fleury and Subban recover. Maybe we can get rid of McElhinney.

 

[A1LeafNation]

What is wrong with you two? Pickard passed through waivers. 29 other teams didn't think he'd be enough of an improvement on even their backup that and you're trying to make him a starter? Give your heads a shake.

How'd you get he'd be a starter from what I said.

Teams passed on him because it was 2 games into the season and all teams had their goalies and commitments to them set.

 

[Judas Tavares]

The thought of Pickard being any better than Andersen with the amount of high impact scoring chances our D gives up is "the grass is always greener" at its best.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

The thought of Pickard being any better than Andersen with the amount of high impact scoring chances our D gives up is "the grass is always greener" at its best.

Yep. I don't love Andersen but he gives us the best chance to win any given night better than anyone in our system by a longshot

 

[Slot]

How'd you get he'd be a starter from what I said.

Teams passed on him because it was 2 games into the season and all teams had their goalies and commitments to them set.

Horse pucks. He was passed on by every team because he had just been replaced on an EXPANSION team by Malcom Subban. A goalie with a grand total of 2 NHL games of experience to that point. He was replaced by a rookie. And deemed not good enough to be the back up goalie on a first year expansion team.

 

[Menzinger]

How'd you get he'd be a starter from what I said.

Teams passed on him because it was 2 games into the season and all teams had their goalies and commitments to them set.

Exactly. He's got huge potentia, but to claim a player off waivers you are then forced to dress them. Just because a team (or teams) were unsure if a prospect is 100% NHL ready and thus pass on picking him from waivers doesn't then mean he's not a smart investment

 

[A1LeafNation]

Horse pucks. He was passed on by every team because he had just been replaced on an EXPANSION team by Malcom Subban. A goalie with a grand total of 2 NHL games of experience to that point. He was replaced by a rookie. And deemed not good enough to be the back up goalie on a first year expansion team.

Do some research on the Vegas goalie coach. Subban is a work in progress and they like his tool box. That's on Boston not recgnizing it, not on pickard.

 

[Slot]

Do some research on the Vegas goalie coach. Subban is a work in progress and they like his tool box. That's on Boston not recgnizing it, not on pickard.

So Subban, whom you admit is a work in progress, is worth more than Pickard. Yet the latter should get starts ahead of two bonafide NHL goalies? You've really tripled down on this lunacy.

 

[A1LeafNation]

So Subban, whom you admit is a work in progress, is worth more than Pickard. Yet the latter should get starts ahead of two bonafide NHL goalies? You've really tripled down on this lunacy.

One of them not two.

 

[4thline]

So Subban, whom you admit is a work in progress, is worth more than Pickard. Yet the latter should get starts ahead of two bonafide NHL goalies? You've really tripled down on this lunacy.

Single team preference =/= more value. Vegas like the combo of Subban + Lindberg + 6th more than Pickard. Other team weren't willing to upset their goaltending situations to claim him. Those were decisions, time will tell if they were good ones. But Pickard's NHL track record is very similar to that of goalies traded for 1st round picks in the last few years.

The idea that he should start over Andersen is crazy, but your inference on his ability and value based the events surrounding his acquisition is well, simple to put it somewhat politely.

 

[Slot]

Single team preference =/= more value. Vegas like the combo of Subban + Lindberg + 6th more than Pickard. Other team weren't willing to upset their goaltending situations to claim him. Those were decisions, time will tell if they were good ones. But Pickard's NHL track record is very similar to that of goalies traded for 1st round picks in the last few years.

The idea that he should start over Andersen is crazy, but your inference on his ability and value based the events surrounding his acquisition is well, simple to put it somewhat politely.

You have no idea what I think of the Pickard trade. I haven't mentioned it. I think it's a good move for the future and at present it is insurance if Andersen goes down for an extended period a tandem of Pickard and McElhinney is a hell of a lot more reassuring than McElhinney and Sparks. But the fact remains that currently it is insane to expect Pickard to go ahead of either of our two goalies.

No one was interested when he was on waivers and it didn't take the moon to get him. It's not rocket surgery to realise that he's nowhere close to NHL ready.

 

[4thline]

No one was interested when he was on waivers and it didn't take the moon to get him. It's not rocket surgery to realise that he's nowhere close to NHL ready.

This what I mean by simple. Assessing a goalies ability based on waiver claims and trade value withouttaking other factors into account.

The guys has a 2.77 and .914 over 86 games since coming into the league, 39th highest save percentage in the league for goalies with 20 or more games in that timespan. He's a young + level backup with starting potential, and the second best goalie in our organization.

 

[Menzinger]

Vegas' asset management has been very questionable as of late. I'm not so sure we should just differ to them putting him in waivers as any sort of accurate gauge of his current skillset

 

[rt]

Proposal

To TOR:
Louis Domingue

To ARI:
Curtis McElhinney

Louis once had very good potential. He's been a train wreck in Raanta's absence. Probably an elite AHL goalie, though. Gives the Leafs a chance to call up Pickard and give the Marlies a solid replacement. Gives the Yotes a solid, experienced vet to stabilize things a little.

Thoughts?

 

[Anthrax442]

Proposal

To TOR:
Louis Domingue

To ARI:
Curtis McElhinney

Louis once had very good potential. He's been a train wreck in Raanta's absence. Probably an elite AHL goalie, though. Gives the Leafs a chance to call up Pickard and give the Marlies a solid replacement. Gives the Yotes a solid, experienced vet to stabilize things a little.

Thoughts?

I think the whole idea behind Mac was his experience with being a backup. They like him. We have 2 good AHL goalies, why add another one?

 

[rt]

Never mind. Az just traded a pick for Wedgewood instead.

 

[Kiwi]

Never mind. Az just traded a pick for Wedgewood instead.

I hope he goes well for you guys ☺

 

[Le Cobra]

Give Pickard a chance (on a back to back at the very least) Andersen is in a slump

 

[Field of Dreams]

The reality is Andersen had been absolute shat this season. So has price and the king..

Let's give it some time?

 

[A1LeafNation]

GARRET SPARKS