im with you. Im not going to say hes cant miss but I think he will be an NHLer, I believe it. Hockey sense seems to be his only weakness and some list it as a strength so even then who knows the truth, but lets say Hockey IQ is a weakness it wont prohibit him from playing in the NHL it will limit his ceiling but he will still play. There are plenty of players with limited hockey sense, hell Jake gardiner has that put on him all the time and he is a top4
Prospect Info: Leafs 2017 1st Rd Pick (#17 OA) - Timothy Liljegren - 6'0" 188lbs RHD - Rogle BK
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im with you. Im not going to say hes cant miss but I think he will be an NHLer, I believe it. Hockey sense seems to be his only weakness and some list it as a strength so even then who knows the truth, but lets say Hockey IQ is a weakness it wont prohibit him from playing in the NHL it will limit his ceiling but he will still play. There are plenty of players with limited hockey sense, hell Jake gardiner has that put on him all the time and he is a top4
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A team may take a shot on him in the 2nd round (i.e. London since they may get Juolevi back anyways), but I do not expect him to downgrade his level of competition to go to the CHL.
Kara is the only guy you can really expect I would say, and that's assuming the VHL (which is where he should be playing next year) is not for him.
Kara is the only guy you can really expect I would say, and that's assuming the VHL (which is where he should be playing next year) is not for him.
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And here's where we need to pump the brakes.
Liljegren is a good prospect with a ton of upside, but there hasn't been a D-man prospect in years that is at worst a better skating version of Ellis. That would be a top 20 D-man league-wide, and nobody has that as their floor.
At worst, Liljegren doesn't become an NHLer. We should be satisfied if he turns into a decent top 4 piece.
Given that Liljegren is already a better skater than Rielly and Gardiner I can't see how he won't be playing in the NHL.
He might take a few years to fully mature but his floor is a 3rd pairing PP specialist. His ceiling is a top pairing right shooting Duncan Keith.
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Ignoring the illness and effect it had on his season/performance, scouts mention he has the tools (skating/shot) but question the toolbox.
His Hockey IQ and questionable decision at times making pointed out, as IF he can put all those elite skill traits to use. Hopefully more experience and development can correct this.
that's the thing though there are tonnes of players with tools no toolbox on the NHL, if hockey IQ is the only question mark its hard to not see him being an NHLer obviously a #6 dman or the like but that's still an NHLer. Gardiner is always refered to as having no tool box but skating was getting him through Liljegren is a better skater than gardiner already
I never understood this.
Perhaps it's because I still have Gardiner's rookie season imprinted in my memory, where he played with the poise of a 10 year vet, but I don't consider Gardiner as a guy with low hockey IQ.
no I don't either, and in liljegrens case some scouting reports say its very good some say its bad.
I guess with gardiner he gets himself into trouble and some attribute that to low iq I guess
The question with Liljegren this season is, basically, is he a really good player who just had a bad year or a kid who wasnt as good as projected. There was probably enough talent in this draft that a team in the top 5 would have other prospects they liked enough to take a pass but I actually fully expected him to go somewhere between 5 and 12. Certainly didnt expect him to be around at 17 and it sounded like our scouts felt the same way.
Mono reduces a person's energy level including their mental alertness.
The myth that Liljegren has a low IQ started spreading when he came back too soon from Mono still feeling the effects.
All previous scouting reports from 2015-16 indicated that his hockey IQ was excellent. His biggest problem was overhandling the puck and trying to do too much by himself which is common among puck rushing d men. When he did make passes they were on the tape.
I totally believe this to be the case, but my point was even IF his IQ was bad he has the rest of the tools to still be an NHLer and likely still a pretty good one
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I doubt he will actually commit to them. Niagara probably has a backup plan, like there is a good guy they can pick up for free that they like in case Liljegren does not come over.
No worries
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"Started the year ranked as a top defenseman prospect based on smooth and mature play from the back end as a puck mover, attacker and PP man, Thick not large, but there is little on the negative side on how well he uses his abilities to defend. A world class skater who has agility mobility and great acceleration, he displays high hockey IQ and reads the ice as well as any NHL defender. Already in the Swedish Elite league and not at all out of place. He really hasn't gotten any bigger or physically stronger, and that might have him sliding down draft lists from top defenseman in the class to maybe a risky selection early on. He is a strong puck mover who will fearlessly lead the attack as a newbie in the SHL. If he does slide, he may make one NHL team's scouting staff look like geniuses. "
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you know that was refuted and he had strep throat right? I cant find where it was now but Marner never had mono
edit: also Liljegren had an undisclosed injury AFTER he got over mono too
ive been trying to find it, ill keep looking unfortunately im thinking it was on twitter. In any case can you show me confirmed mono source?
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