Discussion in 'NHL Draft - Prospects' started by killer9318, Aug 28, 2004.
how good will he be, and who can he be compared to.
I have always felt Kyle Wellwood is one of the mostr underrated prosepct of his time.
two time 100 point scorer in the OH, which means something when in your rookie season in the AHL you score about a point a game.
he is only 5"10 185 ( not in shape 185) but who cares.... if your good at hockey your good at hockey.... I'd like the Leafs to start throwing people in the pine up rather then deciding on them while their tearing it up in the rock... it's not fiar to either side.
Very good hockey player......really smart, good hands good thinking
problems....not nhl skater, not most physical, and height....but i mean look at St. Loius yes it probably wont hapen but who would have thought St. Louis would do what he did? no one so who knows
Unfortunately, most Leafs fans think Wellwood won't make the NHL.
But I agree with the "one of the most underrated prospects" line.
Wellwood is immensly skilled but only time will tell if he can overcome his lack of size and blazing speed.
Wellwood's speed has been improving since he was 17. He's faster now than he was in the OHL.
From the few times i've seen Wellwood play i'd summarize by saying:
"big league skill,minor league size and speed"
He has amazing hands, though.
Who knows? I'd like to see him succeed. I think he's a bad/mediocre skater and that will really hinder him.
Wellwood isn't a bad skater but he isn't a great skater. The problem is that most NHL players his size are excellent skaters whereas Wellwood is merely average.
He is completely one dimensional. He isn't good enough offensively to make the NHL without playing any defence. Defence requires some strength and speed and toughness. Wellwood has shown no signs of that and will probably end up in Europe.
Well, IMHO, Wellwood needs to decide which kind of small player he wants to be in the NHL if he wants to take the next step. Normally, small players fall in only two categories.
I've heard Wellwood has improved his defensive play.
He's continued to prove critics wrong at every level he's played at, so I believe he'll make the nhl in a year or two and eventually become a 20 goal scorer.
Skating isn't a necessity to make the nhl when you have natural goal scoring instincts...two of the best LW of all time admit they can't skate, Andreychuk and Robitaille...
Andreychuk doesn't need to skate because he is a 6'4" garbage goal scorer. Luc Robitaille can't skate but he is 6'1", not 5'9". I like Wellwood but there is no point comparing him to players don't have the same size disadvantage he has. The Martin St. Louis/Theo Fleury argument also annoys me because they are the exception, not the majority. The majority of small and skilled forward prospects can't make it to the NHL with much success.
Wellwood was measured at 5'9" when he was drafted. He's measured at 5'11" now. And he has improved both his skating and his defensive play, which was underrated to begin with.
He is a terrible skater.
Ah, I see. Guess the Leafs' own scouts and the people who write stuff here are all totally wrong.
I've seen Wellwood and this cat's got skill to burn. That was in his junior days. He was slow then a bit Locke-ish except that I don't know if he has the same drive and determination.
Actually, sonce the Leafs drafted him, they won't be needing him for another 15 years.
OK, you got me.
He's world class.
No one said that. However, it has been confirmed that Wellwood is a much better skater now than he was in the OHL. He's not St. Louis fast (and probably never will be), but he's not so bad the defencemen will simply be skating up to him and stripping the puck off his stick. His point totals last year show that.
He was a brutal skater in Junior & put up a ton of points. So he has improved, he should , he's getting older.
I cannot think of one small, somewhat soft guy who is as poor a skater as Wellwood & whose schtick is offense, making it. You may be able show me 1 or 2 guys who did, but they are dwarfed by guys who didnt. Besides which, I would be very surprised if they were as bad a skater as Wellwood.
Wellwood is just the next Sergei Varlamov or Marty Murray, a talented guy who could rack up big points in junior but won't be able to tranlate his game the big leagues.
I've heard that one too. Except he was just the leading rookie scorer in the AHL, and he was playing third line for half the season. Indications are he'll score more points next year. That's half the step already.
Anyway, I'm not going to bother having this argument over Wellwood, because I've had it before. There is no end to it, and having it is a waste of time for both sides.
Varlamov and Murray put up points at the AHL level too.
And I seem to remember people saying that Wellwood was going to be a clone of a bunch of other great junior scorers; put up fantastic points in the OHL, but be completely useless at any higher level.