Bonzi said:Metallian, the fact that Zherdev was born in Kiev, Ukraine doesn't make him good enough... i think you're cheering for him only because of that...
Den said:Didn't we go thru a bunch of somewehere? Have you seen Chistov play recently? Say in Spengler Cup? Ok you can stick with your and I'll stick with mine.
Metallian said:
The fact that these guys play for you locally in the RSL doesn't make them better.
Theres a reason a lot of these guys are still in the RSL...because they aren't good enough for the NHL.
Metallian said:The SPENGLER CUP
Den said:Kharitonov must have not known this when he split the two NHLers yesterday
Metallian said:one play and all of a sudden he's an allstar
I am generally against the whole "NHL>RSL" argument, but when you compare a guy getting over a point a game in the NHL [in recent play] to an undersized guy who hasn't played in the NHL for over 5 years, then something is definately wrongDen said:I thought you could do better then using the good old "not an NHL pleyer - a bad player" routine. You don't need to be 20/20 to see that Kharitonov-Malkin-Su outplayed most NHLers here
Metallian said:I am generally against the whole "NHL>RSL" argument, but when you compare a guy getting over a point a game in the NHL [in recent play] to an undersized guy who hasn't played in the NHL for over 5 years, then something is definately wrong
And so far, Khari is the odd man out on that line
Den said:Recent play isn't good enough. Go to the WC, go to the Eurotour, play the first have of the season for a change.
Metallian said:Recent play isnt good enough for Z, but it is for guys like Chistov who played well in tournaments full of a lesser talent pool?
Dude, you're absolutely nuts.
Den said:2005-2006:
Zherdev 0.68 PPG -15 (what the ??)
Chistov 0.74 PPG (in RSL!!) +26 (that is plus freaking 26 in RSL)
Metallian said:Comparing interleague stats.
Christ.
This is ridiculous.
Bonzi said:Metallian, all we want to say is there are SOME players, better than Zherdev, and these players deserved the place in the national team more than Zherdev.
C’mon Den, I’ve seen Chistov in the first games of Spengler and he looked out of confidence/shape. He was SLOW as hell in that match Metallurg won through penalty shots (Kaigorodov with the winner) for example. He certainly can play better than that, but the Spengler’s Chistov is not as good as the current Zherdev, not at all.Den said:Didn't we go thru a bunch of somewehere? Have you seen Chistov play recently? Say in Spengler Cup? Ok you can stick with your and I'll stick with mine.
helicecopter said:C’mon Den, I’ve seen Chistov in the first games of Spengler and he looked out of confidence/shape. He was SLOW as hell in that match Metallurg won through penalty shots (Kaigorodov with the winner) for example. He certainly can play better than that, but the Spengler’s Chistov is not as good as the current Zherdev, not at all.
Ok, nice to know he ruled in the final cause a as fan of his i was depressed after watching him in that game i mentioned.Den said:I've seen the last one and he ruled. But Spengler Cup was brought up only because that's the only tourney that could be seen in NA on TV
Den said:I thought you could do better then using the good old "not an NHL pleyer - a bad player" routine. You don't need to be 20/20 to see that Kharitonov-Malkin-Su outplayed most NHLers here
MOGiLNY said:As for Zherdev, he wouldn't fit this team. The guys we have here are all playing for Russia and all want to win. Zherdev would be more concerned with his personal stats.
Slitty said:xaxol = Ukranian