Nash13 said:
So you saw him around mid season 2 or 3 times. At a time when he had about, say 40 games total NHL experience split over the past two years. Using that to base a thought on a guys future is nothing short of ridiculous.
Now, I agree he wasn't great or, good mind you, early in the season. He was actually very sporatic (sp?) but in between some tough games, he played some exceptional ones. I think too many people get caught up and remember the Toronto game were he made one glaring error on National TV.
If you have any interest in Komisarek, or maybe you don't and just want to keep basing your argument on 2-3 games from mid season, I suggest checking on his playoff performance which will give you why people are hyped about him. The progression is staggering. He was playing like a veteran. In control, protecting the goalie, playing with poise. That is the Komisarek people have seen which is a much better indicator than 2-3 midseason games.
Now as for hype. Again I agree, the likelihood he will achieve it is unlikely but its a pretty mood point. This is HF so its all relative. 99% of all prospects probably won't achieve anything close to what their hype has brought here.
Oh, I agree, which is why I gave you the disclaimers throughout my post. I can only judge Komisarek on what I did see, however, and from that I was less than impressed. Like I said in my initial post, though, he certainly has all the tools to be something special in this league...I just have my doubts he will be as great as the hype has him pegged for.
montreal said:
And the comments about injuring someone was to give a little taste back to some posters who keep taking shots at Hab fans, although that's not the way to act but I've had it with the crap thrown at Hab fans, even though several deserve it, it's the good posters that I hate to see get lumped in, and there's a reason why many of the good Hab posters don't come to HF anymore.
Ah, see this is why I claimed you were being hypocritical. Your angry at people making generalizations and using them to strike out at hab fans, so you make a childish remark about your player "hopefully" injuring their star player to strike back at them. That IS childish, and regardless how you feel about my response via emoticon, you have certainly admitted that maybe you didn't handle it in the correct way. I'll be honest - I've never had a problem with Hab fans or you individually. In fact, I have enjoyed many of your points throughout my time here and even on this thread in particular, especially about fighting generalizations....b/c frankly they suck
. Still, when you post a lame comment like that, expect for somone to call you on it. You took the wrong path to fight generalizations, in jest or not, and when you post such things it makes people like me, who usually support you, feel absolutely zero pity for you/your fanbase.
Anyways, I'll drop this as its really not worth pursuing for either of us. You made a joke (albiet tasteless to some people), and I may have overreacted. In an effort to keep this thread on target, I'll leave this area of discussion alone unless you want to carry it out on pms or directly ask me a question about what I have said in this thread.
Rob Paxon said:
Saying I ridiculed your post is the kind of hypersensitive drama-filled attitude I was trying to point out. I really don't see what is hypocritical about his joking that he wished a player -- not even a specific one -- got injured; nor do I see how it was uncalled for, being a joke as it were.
Fair enough - your entitled to your opinions on what is called for/not called for. I disagree with you, obviously, but my argument wasn't with you at any point, rather it was with Montreal's initial comment. If you feel it is okay to make jokes like that, fine. For me, I feel it is a grossly improper way at dealing with frustrations. As for the hypocrisy comment, I explained it in the quote above ^.
Rydified said:
They certainly can be, and believe me, I totally understand the situation you are in. You may not be able to completely shed the generalizations thrust at you, but just keep posting in a rational manner and eventually people will learn to respect your opinions. I know their are several wonderful posters here that are Hab fans, and even though it is inevitable that people will use the excuse that "your a homer" against you, use of knowledge and observations to back up your claims can only further yourself in the eyes of the impartial observers on these boards, who aren't so negatively biased against Hab fans.