Kocur vs Brashear: All 3 rounds

[drtheglob]

Round 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38g6CFM_3sk
Round 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy6bQeToVsg&t=4s
Round 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTcA9oPwGWI&t=47s

Not amazing in terms of action, but still a pretty entertaining series overall between two legends. A lot of people haven't seen round 2, someone put that up recently.

Not sure how to embed the videos on this site, sorry.

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[GMR]

If they fought in their primes, I think Brashear would win more, just by tying Kocur up and frustrating him with his style. As you can see in the videos, he hadn't yet perfected his infamous bearhug. When he did, his strength was incredible and it was a difficult maneuver for opponents to overcome.

A power puncher Brashear would have struggled with is a guy like Twist. In his prime steroid years, Twist was very strong. Would be difficult to bearhug and rabbit punch.

 

[drtheglob]

If they fought in their primes, I think Brashear would win more, just by tying Kocur up and frustrating him with his style. As you can see in the videos, he hadn't yet perfected his infamous bearhug. When he did, his strength was incredible and it was a difficult maneuver for opponents to overcome.

A power puncher Brashear would have struggled with is a guy like Twist. In his prime steroid years, Twist was very strong. Would be difficult to bearhug and rabbit punch.

However, in round 3 Kocur showed that even a prime Brashear could not easily outmuscle him.

And I agree about Twist. He would have been a tough fight for Brashear, no doubt.

 

[Lion Hound]

Kocur showed in the third fight that Brashears hugging didn't matter much. He still got off a bomb and Brash wants no part of taking one.

Id a take prime Kocur over prime Twist anyday.

 

[GMR]

Kocur showed in the third fight that Brashears hugging didn't matter much. He still got off a bomb and Brash wants no part of taking one.

Id a take prime Kocur over prime Twist anyday.

So would I. But I'd take a prime Twist against Brashear, over Kocur's chances. Just trying to point out the difference between matchups and styles.

 

[IComeInPeace]

Clearly, Kocur is coming out of his jersey in fight 3.
That's a pretty fool proof way of countering the bearhug.

 

[IComeInPeace]

A power puncher Brashear would have struggled with is a guy like Twist. In his prime steroid years, Twist was very strong. Would be difficult to bearhug and rabbit punch.

I think that could be an interesting match up because as you say Twist is so strong too.

But, I think what made Brashear so effective with his bearhug technique was his balance. He could maintain his balance better than a lot of bigger guys while he pulled his opponent off balance.

 

[HFBS]

So would I. But I'd take a prime Twist against Brashear, over Kocur's chances. Just trying to point out the difference between matchups and styles.

Only because in Twist's case, prime equals massive steroids.

 

[CHGoalie27]

Kocur looked the better of the two in all 3 IMO.

 

[GMR]

Only because in Twist's case, prime equals massive steroids.

True, but other fighters have taken steroids and/or other drugs before to give them a boost. Twist certainly bulked up as a fighter, but he always threw hard.

 

[Hockeypete49]

Check out Frank the Animals three fights with Donald. Frank had to force Donald to fight him each time. Frank came away with two clear wins and one fight even.

 

[Saintb]

Check out Frank the Animals three fights with Donald. Frank had to force Donald to fight him each time. Frank came away with two clear wins and one fight even.

Who is frank the animal, Francois Leroux ?

 

[Hockeypete49]

Who is frank the animal, Francois Leroux ?

Frank Bialowas. It was when he played for the St. John Maple Leafs.

 

[IComeInPeace]

Kocur was coming out of his jersey in Rd 3, or Brashear has his way with him in that one. Brashear has to try and hold on to his t-shirt, or Kocur will have free reign to throw bombs.

Before the tie down rule, by all means do that to give yourself an advantage (although I think it's a BS move). After the tie down rule came into effect, it is most definitely a BS move. When you're a toughguy, and know you'll be fighting an elite toughguy, and you purposely don't tie down...

Kocur is a great. But, in round 3, that was chcken5hit in my books. Don't fight him if you feel it's an unfair fight (ie he's in his prime, and you;re hanging on to your career at that point).

 

[IComeInPeace]

Check out Frank the Animals three fights with Donald. Frank had to force Donald to fight him each time. Frank came away with two clear wins and one fight even.

Those fights were in the '93 and '94 season: well before Brashear was an exceptional fighter. As a matter of fact, Brashear was a marginal tough guy at the time...
One of those fights was still in Brashear's favor.

Frank was more in the league of a guy like Rocky Thompson.

Many an AHL fighter has gotten way overrated over the years. The Animal is yet another example of a guy that was legit in the AHL, but would have had to get much better to hang with the elite NHL guys over the long haul.

 

[BM14]

Sorta O/T but Kocur's cousin plays on my winter team.