The Copenhagen area has 5 teams in the Danish league, but they also have the lowest attendances (even the best had only 852 spectators in their season opener last weekend). I think it would be a huge challenge, having Malmö back in the SHL doesn't help either.
It is nice to talk about Copenhagen, but unrealistic.
The KHL is interesting in financially strong clubs & big television markets. I do not think Denmark has more value for the KHL than Germany or Switzerland or even GB or Sweden if a miracle happens.
It's not like the German, Swedish or Swiss fans of other teams would just drop their own team and start following the country's KHL team instead so I don't really get this "big television markets" argument. Meanwhile a KHL team in Denmark could actually attract some nationwide interest due to lack of competition. Population-wise Copenhagen isn't put in a shame either, it's a decently-sized city.
look at jokerit. Finnish hockey fans still following liiga, but "the jokerit tv deal" (including sweden, denmark & norway) is considered as one of the best khl tv deals. The most important thing is how much are tvs willing to pay. German or danish?
Denmark has 5-6 million inhabitants, germany over 80 million. No doubt germany is bigger market (& you can include austria) than denmark. Switzeland is small, but still bigger than denmark.
You know. I have nothing against the denmark. Nice country. But it is unrealistic to expect a khl expansion to denmark in near future. Especially if there is reported interest from germany & switzerland, who are leading expansion destinations (with sweden, but you know...) for the khl. The league has said many times, germany, switzeland & sweden prevail over other countries. Now, we know there is a serious interest from two of the three, so easy choice.
Poland, estonia are at the same position as denmark, not attractive enough anymore. Sadly, i have to add czech rep to this list too.
Look at Jokerit. Finnish hockey fans still following Liiga, but "the Jokerit TV deal" (including Sweden, Denmark & Norway) is considered as one of the best KHL TV deals. The most important thing is how much are TVs willing to pay. German or Danish?
Denmark has 5-6 million inhabitants, Germany over 80 million. No doubt Germany is bigger market (& you can include Austria) than Denmark. Switzeland is small, but still bigger than Denmark.
You know. I have nothing against the Denmark. Nice country. But it is unrealistic to expect a KHL expansion to Denmark in near future. Especially if there is reported interest from Germany & Switzerland, who are leading expansion destinations (with Sweden, but you know...) for the KHL. The league has said many times, Germany, Switzeland & Sweden prevail over other countries. Now, we know there is a serious interest from two of the three, so easy choice.
Poland, Estonia are at the same position as Denmark, not attractive enough anymore. Sadly, I have to add Czech rep to this list too.
Who do we have in the West so far?
Russian, Finland, Slovakia, Latvia, Belarus
East is
Russian, Chinese and Kazakh. So we clearly need some Eastern teams first
Almaty would be cool, I'd like another Kazakh team, the president likes hockey and they have enough money to waste.
Mongolia would be a perfect location but its probably not even on the radar and rightly so!
China could have another team but it would be even more of a gimick than Redstar. Sure Redstar are trying but another Chinese team wouldn't have any Chinese players to sign!
Northern Japan would be interesting. Hockey interest is there but not sure about the infrastructure?
Abit farfetched but you never know whats coming
Krasnoyarsk. Just put a freakin' KHL team in this city already. A major Siberian city with no spectacularly successful top tier sports club. I'm sure people would care if they could watch the likes of SKA, Sibir or Avangard in their city. Their football team, Yenisey, have been doing very well this season and will probably promote to Russian Premier League next season. So, things can get done in this city... Why not give them a glorious hockey team that would perfectly fit in eastern conference?
Look at Jokerit. Finnish hockey fans still following Liiga, but "the Jokerit TV deal" (including Sweden, Denmark & Norway) is considered as one of the best KHL TV deals. The most important thing is how much are TVs willing to pay. German or Danish?
Denmark has 5-6 million inhabitants, Germany over 80 million. No doubt Germany is bigger market (& you can include Austria) than Denmark. Switzeland is small, but still bigger than Denmark.
You know. I have nothing against the Denmark. Nice country. But it is unrealistic to expect a KHL expansion to Denmark in near future. Especially if there is reported interest from Germany & Switzerland, who are leading expansion destinations (with Sweden, but you know...) for the KHL. The league has said many times, Germany, Switzeland & Sweden prevail over other countries. Now, we know there is a serious interest from two of the three, so easy choice.
Poland, Estonia are at the same position as Denmark, not attractive enough anymore. Sadly, I have to add Czech rep to this list too.
There is an option, that team in Dennmark could be like 50 - 50. I mean it will have Dannish and also German players. Then you have two markets covered.
You cant find many good German players with KHL level. It will then end like Slovan. Many ECHL and AHL boys with Czech old guys and here and there some Slovak player.
Exactly. Everything is possible if someone is willing to lose a lot of money on it (as we've seen with Lev, Jokerit, Kunlun). And everything will fail when that one doesn't want to spend any more money (as we've seen with Lev and the 2008 CHL).Yes, why not? Denmark could work.
The question is - is the KHL interested? I do not think. There is more business connections between Germany and Russia than Denmark and Russia. At the end of a day you need someone who fill fund a team. It is questionable if the KHL is interested in brand new teams in Europe (Asia is another story). And I can go on ...
Exactly. Everything is possible if someone is willing to lose a lot of money on it (as we've seen with Lev, Jokerit, Kunlun). And everything will fail when that one doesn't want to spend any more money (as we've seen with Lev and the 2008 CHL).
Yes, why not? Denmark could work.
The question is - is the KHL interested? I do not think. There is more business connections between Germany and Russia than Denmark and Russia. At the end of a day you need someone who fill fund a team. It is questionable if the KHL is interested in brand new teams in Europe (Asia is another story). And I can go on ...
WILL NOT HAPPEN, VORKY forget it, why the hell would Germans want to support a team in the KHL playing against some random,poor siberian city team in a they cant even pronounce when they could be playing in their own league?
why the hell would Germans want to support a team in the KHL playing against some random,poor siberian city team in a they cant even pronounce when they could be playing in their own league?
Look at Jokerit. Finnish hockey fans still following Liiga, but "the Jokerit TV deal" (including Sweden, Denmark & Norway) is considered as one of the best KHL TV deals. The most important thing is how much are TVs willing to pay.
Do we know, how much money KHL got from the Jokerit TV deal (all nordic countries/viasat)? Is it more than Liiga got from previous contract (just in Finland/nelonen media)?
Previous or still current tv conract for Liiga gets each team around 900K-1 million euros per season. The new one with Telia that start next season remarkably will earn them more, against all expectations. What Jokerit actually got for tv rights last season is not certain as it was included in the "KHL aid" they got from the league.
Yes, I know that. I am just curious, because Vorky is talking about biggest tv-deal for KHL (alltime?). Is there any public information about how much money KHL gets from Viasat or how much did they received from the previous tv-deal?
As you know, we have shared income from television rights with the clubs for the last three seasons, since I came to the KHL. The mechanism is a bit complicated; the contribution of each team to the total value of television rights is taken into account. For example, the value of KHL television rights is quite high in Finland, so Jokerit’s contribution to overall value is really big. We can see a trend of increasing value of television rights worldwide, including Russia.