Kessel

[William H Bonney]

He's the German Goalie right?

If you're not being sarcastic, he's talking about Peter Mueller, the forward from the USA.

 

[William H Bonney]

I'm just going by what I heard - apparently Vasyunov is pretty good. It doesn't matter what he has done recently, he's proved himself to be a top 5 talent.

I remember hearing he was pretty good as well, but he hasn't really done anything since then. And, of course it matters what they've done recently, and I don't think he's a top 5 talent.

 

[Habsfan 32]

If you're not being sarcastic, he's talking about Peter Mueller, the forward from the USA.

I'm sorry I mixed some guys up thats why. I'm tired.

 

[Form and Substance]

would Kessel overtake Brule? or is that a really stupid question?

 

[Le Golie]

I agree with most that Kessel would go second overall this year. And he may go second overall next year too. Frolik looks like an elite talent. Both are potential superstars and their draft status will be decided over the course of the next year.

Joenssuu hasn't developed as much as those two this year but his size is still a huge advantage for him. The 2006 draft looks very deep, there are a solid 8-10 players that could are potential stars but Frolik and Kessel are one level ahead of the pack at this point.

 

[Habsfan 32]

would Kessel overtake Brule? or is that a really stupid question?

I think Kessel would overtake Brule for sure. They are both offensivly dynamic players but I Kessel has more upside and he does not have the penalty ''problems'' that people talk so much about Brule.

 

[Le Golie]

would Kessel overtake Brule? or is that a really stupid question?

I don't know if every single team in the league would take Kessel over Brule right now but I believe the majority definitely would. And I believe the ones that wouldn't would be making a mistake.

If they were the same age coming off this same year it would be really close but the age advantage Kessel has puts him ahead of Brule.

 

[nomorekids]

would Kessel overtake Brule? or is that a really stupid question?

Considering the fact that Brule has slipped as low as fifth in some lists for the 2005 draft, I think so.

 

[FLYLine27*]

Hes got 5 goals and 3 assits in 3 games....obviously 1st in points and also 1st in goals.

Thats pretty impressive.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

I agree with most that Kessel would go second overall this year. And he may go second overall next year too. Frolik looks like an elite talent. Both are potential superstars and their draft status will be decided over the course of the next year.

Joenssuu hasn't developed as much as those two this year but his size is still a huge advantage for him. The 2006 draft looks very deep, there are a solid 8-10 players that could are potential stars but Frolik and Kessel are one level ahead of the pack at this point.

I agree with VOB who suggested that Peter Mueller could overtake both Frolik and Kessel for number one overall next year. He's not as flashy as Kessel but has probably as much talent and carries a considerably larger frame.

 

[espo*]

would Kessel overtake Brule? or is that a really stupid question?

I think he already has.He's just not in this year's draft.

 

[Le Golie]

I agree with VOB who suggested that Peter Mueller could overtake both Frolik and Kessel for number one overall next year. He's not as flashy as Kessel but has probably as much talent and carries a considerably larger frame.

Maxwell or Toews could overtake everyone too, but like Mueller they are all chasing Frolik and Kessel at this very moment. Next year should be very interesting for all these guys.

 

[Habsfan 32]

Hes got 5 goals and 3 assits in 3 games....obviously 1st in points and also 1st in goals.

Thats pretty impressive.

Really impressive!

 

[bruins4777*]

So do you guys think 2006 will be a great draft? 2003 good? Or is it just that the top 15 or so talents are gold, but it falls off after that? or what?

 

[monster_bertuzzi]

I don't know if every single team in the league would take Kessel over Brule right now but I believe the majority definitely would. And I believe the ones that wouldn't would be making a mistake.

If they were the same age coming off this same year it would be really close but the age advantage Kessel has puts him ahead of Brule.

Wow, 9 months.

 

[monster_bertuzzi]

So do you guys think 2006 will be a great draft? 2003 good? Or is it just that the top 15 or so talents are gold, but it falls off after that? or what?

2006 has very weak depth, but phenomenal top-end talent.

 

[Le Golie]

Wow, 9 months.

One hockey season. At this stage of the game that is huge.

 

[AnThGrt]

Personally i'd take Frolik easilly before Kessel and have seen both i like both but Frolik i find the better player and Czech generally are better then American....

 

[nomorekids]

Personally i'd take Frolik easilly before Kessel and have seen both i like both but Frolik i find the better player and Russians generally are better then American....

Interesting.

Frolik is a Czech...so...I'm not sure who you're talking about...

 

[Gardebut30]

One hockey season. At this stage of the game that is huge.

You beat me to it. I agree. That aside, I wouldn't mind either on my team.

 

[mercury]

I've read some Frolik=Jagr comparisons. Is this accurate, in either style or upside? Also, who does Kessel remind you of?

 

[monster_bertuzzi]

I've read some Frolik=Jagr comparisons. Is this accurate, in either style or upside? Also, who does Kessel remind you of?

Frolik isn't big and strong enough to warrant a Jagr comparison (he's only 16, he could still grow quite a bit mind you), Id compare him to Elias right about now. As for Kessel - he has some fancy dancy stickhandling moves but not a top tier all around game at this point, I dont really know who he reminds me of. Maybe Chris Drury.

 

[NYR469]

One hockey season. At this stage of the game that is huge.

at this stage it is not huge, in fact it means less than nothing.

you don't draft a player with the based on who is the best player right then with the intention of inserting them the following october. you picked them based on who you think will be the best player when they enter their prime...

if a gm thinks that kessel will be a much better player than brule but picks brule because brule is older and therefore more nhl ready at draft time then that gm is an absolute moron and should be fired.

and phil kessel is better now then brule is, so brule isn't even more ready he is just older.

 

[Le Golie]

at this stage it is not huge, in fact it means less than nothing.

you don't draft a player with the based on who is the best player right then with the intention of inserting them the following october. you picked them based on who you think will be the best player when they enter their prime...

if a gm thinks that kessel will be a much better player than brule but picks brule because brule is older and therefore more nhl ready at draft time then that gm is an absolute moron and should be fired.

and phil kessel is better now then brule is, so brule isn't even more ready he is just older.

Right. Because no scout or GM values what they see in a player during their draft year. Kessel has an entire season more to develop his game before his judgement day. Brule's final season is done, so his judement day is right now.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

Frolik isn't big and strong enough to warrant a Jagr comparison (he's only 16, he could still grow quite a bit mind you), Id compare him to Elias right about now. As for Kessel - he has some fancy dancy stickhandling moves but not a top tier all around game at this point, I dont really know who he reminds me of. Maybe Chris Drury.

No offense to Chris Drury, who I like a great deal as a player, but you're really underrating Kessel's abilities with that comparision. He is an ELITE offensive player, plain and simple.