CanadienShark
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Oh I agree. Just trying to help clarify what (I think) he's trying to say.
Karlsson vs Matthews offensively?
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Karlsson and it's not even close. Anyone who says otherwise must support Leafs 
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The Winter Soldier
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You memory is clouded too then since Ottawa came back to win that game where Karlsson assisted on the winning goal by Turris who was left wide open which just happened to be Matthews man.
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Uh, centre is much harder.
You have to worry about your own lane, then young wingers. With Matthews, he's got Hyman that is a good worker and Nylander who is a Sithis-like void defensively. And he still produced 40 goals and could well top that this season.
I took Matthews. He has well above-average defensive game and a stellar offensive game. Just incredible player.
Karlsson is also elite at his position, but is too lackadaisical at times in his away-from-the-puck play, and that just should not be at this point in his career. If Erik were pristine defensively, it would, indeed, not be close. But the three zone game edges this in Matthews' favour, as well as his being a centre.
Filatov2Kovalev2Bonk
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Sens fan and I did. I always take the dominant centre over the dominant defenceman. They are just that important to building your franchise.
I also value play away from the puck a lot more. If this were 2012 Karlsson it would be a wash in his favour, but this year he hasn't looked like 2012 Karlsson. Hopefully that changes at some point soon.
Pinto Bean
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Karlsson without any hesitation.
It's also comical to see Leaf fans bring up a game they lost so often. Always nice to get a reminder of a win against a divisional rival!
It's also comical to see Leaf fans bring up a game they lost so often. Always nice to get a reminder of a win against a divisional rival!
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Idk, I thought Lidstom was more important to the wings than Yzerman, Pronger more important to the ducks than Getzlaf was, Doughty is more important to the Kings than Kopitar is, Orr more important than Esposito, Potvin more important than Trottier. I really don't think it's as easy as you suggest.
Hugh Mungus
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lmao pls stop, how on earth are you gonna comapre a dman and a forward using goals? according to you karlssons offense is equal to that of a third liner? good stuff
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Karlsson until Matthews shows he can outscore him over a full season. Even then the fact that Karlsson does it as a dman is incredible.
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CantLoseWithMatthews
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quick bump. Matthews has twice as many points at 5v5 in 1 fewer game
WillTheThrill
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lolKarlsson and it's not even close. Anyone who says otherwise must support Leafs
It's been Matthews this season and don't know how it can be debated, but Karlsson is capable of more. (As is Matthews). Auston right now is a PPG #1 C with great possession stats and leading the leafs to playoffs
CantLoseWithMatthews
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I agree. I have no problem with saying Karlsson is great offensively or even possibly better than Matthews. People laughing at the comparison and saying Karlsson AINEC deserve to feel foolish though
BayStreetBully
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It was always Matthews. The offense is where Karlsson once made it close before.
CantLoseWithMatthews
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BayStreetBully
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While this thread was about offense, I couldn’t help but notice Karlsson is a -26, good for 4th worst in the league. On the other end of the spectrum, Matthews is +26, good for 2nd best in the league.
That chasm is nearly as large as the difference between Toronto’s (6th place) and Ottawa’s (30th) place in the standings, of which Matthews and Karlsson are largely responsible for as each team’s respective top players.
That chasm is also nearly as large as the difference between Karlsson’s 5 goals and Matthews’ 26 goals, since this thread was about offense.
BlueBaron
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It used to be EK but I'm not sure he is that player anymore or ever will be again. Stone is the best player on that team now. People are living in the past.
CantLoseWithMatthews
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there's also a large chasm between Matthews' 36 5v5 points in 48 to Karlsson's 18 in 49. Matthews actually has more 5v5 goals than Karlsson has points. Hell, Matthews has more 5v5 points so far this year in 48 games than Karlsson had all of last year
Also, Karlsson has only been on the ice for 11 fewer 5v5 goals against this year as Matthews has been on for this year + last year. Crazy stuff I'd say
I wonder if we'll see people own up to their wildly inaccurate positions
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BlueBaron
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Why not state the obvious? .98 point per game vs .73. I guess people think he will bounce back despite losing a huge chunk of his foot.
