Karlsson vs Matthews offensively?

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EK65 vs AM34 offensively

  1. EK

    136 vote(s)
    73.1%
  2. AM

    46 vote(s)
    24.7%
  3. Tie

    4 vote(s)
    2.2%
  1. The Winter Soldier

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    This one is easy, as the poll indicates. EK, thought this poll would be closed already, Matthews is the better goal scorer as most fwds when you compare them to Defencemen. But EK is an offensive driver that goes even beyond his impressive stats line, as shown in the playoffs he was on the ice practically for all of Ottawa's goals for in the playoffs.
     
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    Karlsson it is. Nothing against Matthews, he is a beaut, but he is not on EKs impact level offensively just yet. Come to think of it, there are only a handfull of players that are. EK is that dominant of a creative force.
     
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    More babble. Let's luck at the polls so far. Thread lock down worthy due to lopsided results? hmmm perhaps?

    Goals are a terrible way to compare forwards to defenseman and you know it.
     
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    Dude stop. Karlsson best defensive attribute is his ability to play keep away. I would love for Matthews to have the puck on his stick and Karlsson on the ice at the same time.

    Hard to take you seriously when you take the guy that has 10x less goals.
     
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    lol is this guy serious? You sound like you've never seen karlsson and how good he is at stealing pucks and going back the other way. Or how good he is at blocking shots and passes. Matthews doesn't do that as well. He isn't a puck thief like stone or karlsson.
     
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    Karlsson plays a much tougher position defensively
     
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    He's really good at stealing the puck I'll give you that but he's not good at blocking shots or passes. You're such a homer.:laugh:

    You probably think Karlsson is better than Doughty defensively.
     
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    I can't help but think you've literally never seen Matthews play before if you don't think he's a puck thief
     
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    He was 2nd in the NHL in blocked shots and i'm a homer for saying he's good at blocking shots? I feel like i'm arguing with someone who hasn't done any research on the subject at all. What's the point?
     
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    Funny thing about this is Karlsson led the NHL in blocked shots last year and Matthews is easily one of the very best at stealing pucks. It's not just that he's a big body who separates people, his stickwork is incredibly good.
     
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    I said he isn't one like stone or karlsson. He is a puck thief though.

    I'd like to add that a pass interception does not count as a takeaway. That is something that karlsson is probably the best in the league at. Call that thievery or not, but i do.
     
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    Pretty sure he was 1st no? Either way though.
     
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    Honestly, he is. I wish I could get a highlight video of his work this season, one of the few players that I'm truly entertained by his ability to retrieve and keep the puck when he doesn't have it.
     
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    He was for like 90% of the season but got passed in the last week or two when he was either not playing or playing with broken everything and probably avoided getting in the way to try to be able to play in the playoffs.
     
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    The flashbacks of Matthews embarassing Karlsson probably clouds his memory.
     
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    He absolutely is as good as Karlsson. I think Stone is better though
     
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    I think he's up there, but i think stone is a bit better, and if you include pass interception as thievery then i think karlsson is a bit better as well. I never said or implied that matthews is not among the leagues better thieves. I just think ottawa is blessed in that regard which is why they're so good on the counter attack. That and the system.
     
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    A bit better? Stone is the best puck thief I have ever seen in my entire life. He steals the puck pretty much every shift he's on the ice, it's absolutely insane to watch. No player in the league is close to how good Stone is at stripping the puck away from people.

    Btw the answer to the thread is Karlsson, he's one of the best offensive players in the league, and although he's been struggling a bit this year due to adjusting to his injury, an elite defender too. That's why Karlsson is a top 3 player in the game, and Matthews isn't.
     
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    Is it the offseason already?
     
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    I've seen Matthews sweep a puck from an opposing player to himself along the boards from a distance, dangle a few players, lose it momentarily, then steal it right back and make a play. Multiple times. I think he is every bit as good as them, but Stone is the stick lift king.
     
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    We'll see about that.
     
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    You believe Matthews is a top 3 player in the league?
     
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    I think he's suggesting Matthews will be.
     
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    What an horrible thread

    The ridiculous claims you can read on here... Some Leafs fans are making it really though to read the main boards. I think it's because they were so desperate for so long for a great player and a good team. You'd think those years of suckage would have humbled them a bit.

    Acting so proud and loud about their 8th Wonder of the World but they got him 1st overall because of how horrible their team was. I hope they picked a good player lol

    People will say "it's normal that they're loud because they have the biggest fanbase, etc". Well, honestly I don't see the 30 other fanbases do that altogether...

    Incoming people who will tell me to not read the main boards if I am not happy. The thing is I don't but as soon as I do, it's swarmed by Leafs fans and that ridiculous "pride"
     
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    But this poll is talking about the present. This poll isn't "Will Matthews be the better offensive player than Karlsson?" (In which my answer would still be no, Karlsson can completely carry and offense by himself).
     

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