Karlsson on Broadway

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  1. Larouche to Bears

    Larouche to Bears Registered User

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    I am thinking this is part of the plan. This would be a coupe if we can pull it off. Kovy, and Karlsson, immediately changes everything.
     
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    I dont see how this would work to be honest . Rangers would have to give up a ton and then have to deal with salary. only way to counter that would be to take on bobby Ryans contract , which on top of Staal and Smith i dont see this happening
     
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    The cost for Karlsson might include taking on Bobby Ryan's contract which is very toxic. That deal could very well cost the team $17mil in cap annually for the next 5 years + whatever else.

    Here's the thing---wait a year and if Erik doesn't re-sign he will become a UFA. I would wait. I don't want Ryan and I don't want to send Ottawa 3-4-5 of our best prospects.
     
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    You’d probably have to include Shatty in the deal, as ADA doesn’t have a lot of trade value, and Pionk shows promise. We’d otherwise be stuck with far too many offensive defensemen. But why on earth would Ottawa take Shattenkirk over EK? There’s a significant quality gap. Trying to fill that gap would then either be financially undesirable for Ottawa or cost us prospects and/or picks—which wouldn’t be in line with our supposed rebuild. I just don't see it happening (no matter how much I’d love to)
     
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    There goes the rebuild if we get him. Top prospects, first round picks.

    No thanks
     
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    Rangers have just blown up there team and bought "stocks" in Howden, Hajek, Lindgren, Rykov. Anderson, Chytil, and Pionk were all given significant time. And they're going to turn around and trade a few of these guys plus multiple first for Karlsson? No thank you. Not yet.
     
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    Rebuilding is different here.
     
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    If we were to sign Kovy and trade for Karlsson, this team would still suck.
     
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    Absolutely terrible idea.
     
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    RangerBoy TRUST THE PROCESS

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    Terrible is not the word. Awful. Pathetic. Putrid. Disgusting.

    I love Gorton. If he trades for Karlsson and gives him 7-8 years for $90M,I hope Dolan fires his ass.

    The Rangers need so many things. When they acquire those pieces and the team is ready to win,go get the extra big piece. The Hawks are the prime example. They lost in the WCF in 2009 to Detroit. They signed Hossa that summer. They already had the other pieces in place. Hossa was the missing and final piece.

    The Rangers need an entire new team. They need basically everything which is why they are rebuilding. They need their young players to develop. They need to acquire more young players in the draft and through trades this summer. Fast forward to 2-3 years down the road,go get that piece after the Rangers have gone through the process. I don’t care what Lundqvist says about the process. He is a 36 year old goalie with a bad left knee.
     
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    I think this would work if the team were further along in the process.

    Right now we don't really have enough established depth to make this more than an example of musical chairs.
     
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    I would wait the year---which doesn't mean I would try to sign him then. I would look at where the team was--where our cap is and what avenues I saw going forward and then I'd make a decision. But trading for him now would be a complete ****show. He will cost a lot in terms of cap space---there's a very good chance we really wouldn't be able to afford him. We need our Chytil's, Andersson's, Shesterkin's and 1st rounders. That's all stuff I don't want to give up.
     
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    Exactly. In 2-3 years when they have a better idea of what they have in some of the young players and the system has added 10-15 more quality assets through various means, a trade like this would make sense. Quantity for quality. But not yet.
     
  15. Larouche to Bears

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    Anybody who says they don't make the right deal for Karlsson, is nuts. The guy is one of, if not the most valuable defender, in the league, and is still young. The man is a franchise player.
     
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    How about they just wait a year and sign him for just money?
     
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    Gorton will wait and sign him for cash next summer

    No way they trade for him
     
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    He'll cost you Skjei, Hayes and multiple 1st's.
     
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    At least.
     
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    Were rebuilding, just sign him next offseason
     
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    Rebuild? Why “rebuild” when you can just throw **** at the wall and hope that it sticks enough to keep it from collapsing?
     
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    It's not worth signing many players to that long of a term at a high cap hit, even as a UFA.

    Combine the fact that we give up assets to get him and forget it.

    The crap about rebuilding and needing a new team blah blah blah whatever doesn't matter. It's not worth the risk to sign a player to that term, espically one who has had major surgery already.
     
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    Karlsson is 100 percent leaving Ottawa. It's the worst kept secret in hockey.

    It would be a massive mistake for any GM to give up a significant package for Karlsson when they can just sign him next summer.

    In before Chiarelli trades Puljujarvi, Yamamoto, Bear and two 1sts for Karlsson.
     
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    No. Just no.
     
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    Ainec Jim Benning is a meme

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