Discussion in 'NHL Draft - Prospects' started by rt, Apr 6, 2007.
Who will be better in he long run?
Kessel right now, not sure of Kanes ability so thats why i picked Kessel
im pretty sure the only areas that kessel has kane beat right now are straight away speed and size. kessel has had a tumultuous season...and has complained about ice time. kane must be a top six forward or he will not be effective....kane has better skills in the long run because the "blazing speed" players never last too long. kane has better vision, passing and stick skills then kessel.
check out the vids for yourself.
Kessel. Kane is doing real good in a weak draft year, thats all I have to say.
Kessel has a lot more than just "blazing speed". Not like whenever he gets going at top speed he just turns the puck over and slides into the boards, he's good at top speed and probably has the best vision on the team after Savard. His passing, by watching him in his little ice time you can tell is somethign special.
I would put my money on Kane, IMO he has superior hockey sense than Kessel.
That roofer that Kane had in the 3/27 game was sick. He's got lightning quick hands. You also gotta' love the Hulk Hogan-esque move he pulled after the goal, putting his hand up to his hear, listening to the crowd get loud for him.
the guys eligible for the upcoming draft are allways better then NHL players. lol.
Sometimes it's true. Like this time.
As said earlier, Kane's vision and creativity give him the edge. My jaw consistently dropped watching him at the World Juniors. Just an extremely shifty, imaginative player.
And this is coming from someone predisposed to hating Team USA in international hockey.
I've never seen Patrick Kane play so all I can really say in 2 things in response to this thread:
1.) Phil Kessel has not complained about ice time this season. I'm guessing you're talking about the article that Pens fans had overblown on your board. He was asked why he didn't have as many points as some of the other rookies and he said ice time. That certainly isn't complaining about ice time; it is answering the reporters question truthfully. He hasn't had nearly as much ice time as other rookies due to cancer (missed several games so that is no ice time) and the fact that Dave Lewis plays his vets over young guys like Kessel and Kalus (to be fair, he has been playing Kessel significantly more lately). It isn't like he said "I deserve more ice time (which he did deserve) but my coach has a woody for 35 year old, ugly, skill-less players"; which again would be entirely true.
2.) Kessel has been the Bruins best overall foward over the last 2 months. Sure, the Bruins have sucked during these 2 months and Marc Savard has mailed it in since we've been eliminated but that is still pretty damn impressive for a teenager to be his teams best foward for that long. His defensive game has improved by an insane amount and I'd argue he has been one of the Bruins best defensive fowards over these past 2 months. He is using his speed to backcheck and take the puck away from guys not paying attention to him pretty often. I wouldn't be surprised to see him on the Bruins penalty kill within the next few years if his defensive game keeps improving as much as it has.
I just have a hard time believing Kane (and some of you may be right; I've never seen him) is a better prospect than another teenager who has been the best player on an NHL team for 2 months and you can see; is full of ridiculous potential.
I don't know about Kane but Kessel has been awesome the last two months and he just recently has had the chance to play with the top lines on the boston team before this he was stuck on the 4th line getting 8 min. of ice time. who even knows if Kane makes his team out of training camp this year. So before i can even rate KAne being close to kessel he would have to make it to the NHL first.
I am going with Kessel.
well we both dont know him personally- and he might have a bad rap from the combine article last year...but where there is smoke there is fire- and i have heard reports of kessels attitude before.
with that in mind kessel had a rough year on a rough team- not taking anything away. kane had an awesome wjc- and an awesome usndp year...i think his skills will transfer over well in the nhl in a year ot two.
I think ultimately, Kessel will turn out to be the better point producer.
You obviously havent been following the kid very closely. He's pretty much washed away all the 'attitude problem' flack and is becoming beloved in his home market. Hes been a hard worker, coachable and willing to learn all season long. He's spent extra time with the coaching staff working on his positioning and the difference between the player we saw in October and the player we see now is astounding. Hes going to be very special. Most of the crap you heard about him is either inaccurate or in the past.
I think hes a better player than Patrick Kane, but I think both are going to be excellent.
do you remember what Kessel did at the WJC?
Nothing Kessel does is ever good enough.
I heard so many bad things about him before the draft, and none of them have come true with Boston. For some reason, people like to hate Kessel. Very confusing.
I'm sorry, but your post is, frankly, ridiculous. Of course we don't know Kessel personally. Who on these boards does?
All we can go by is our personal observations and expert opinion. By the way, I assume you've never actually seen Kane play. Nor have I. I've seen Kessel play many times this year and have been in awe of some of his moves and talent.
"Where there's smoke, there's fire..." To support your argument you're holding on to the opinion of a few before the draft, which, fortunately for Boston, caused him to drop from #1 to #5. Can you cite a single attitude problem with Kessel?
You mean the big game against Norway and being mostly invisible against Canada?
The guy has impressed me in the NHL - make no mistake - but I don't recall him being terribly impressive in the WJC.
HFboards rules... whomever is younger (between the two players being compared) is better. Plain and simple.
I think Kane will wind up the better player, the thing is Kessel has amazing skills, he just hasnt been improving as fast as some others, both will be great...
I think Kessel has better overall potential but just wont reach it all the way to its extent, Kane i think will...