PK Cronin
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I thought he had an excellent first period. Then disappeared along with the rest of them.
For the person in the previous thread talking about Marion Hossa, he had exactly ONE even strength point more than Josh Bailey last year.
Hossa currently has EXACTLY as many points as Josh Bailey.
Give it a rest.
If you're looking to complain about someone, Brian Strait is still on the team.
So Josh Bailey is on the same level as Hossa now? Just when I've thought I's heard it all.
For the person in the previous thread talking about Marion Hossa, he had exactly ONE even strength point more than Josh Bailey last year.
Hossa currently has EXACTLY as many points as Josh Bailey.
Is this what we are doing now? Comparing Hossa to Bailey?
Whats next, Big Ben to my Casio?
Exactly. What does he do well ? Everyone says defense...okay so does Hossa and Towes, Bergeron, koivu, Nielsen etc but they are in the top 6 because they also bring offense and can drive the play from time to time. Bailey does not. Hence........he should not be in the top 6. I either want him on the 3rd line or off this team.
That's for you to decide. I don't make dumb declarations like that.
Well, Marion Hossa had one more EV point than Josh Bailey last year and has the same number this year. So, when people say things and don't bother to double-check it, I'm happy to provide the data.
But if you're arguments are based around posting smileys and describing your disbelief, rather than looking at production; I suppose there isn't much to do but let you rant like a crazy person.
Except you just did. You literally compared the two in order the claim that Bailey is on the same level. There is no other explanation.
Why are we even just looking at even strength points?
Wouldn't playing on the PP be a testament to the ability of a player? Not even considering that is taking away a huge advantage one player has just to make a comparison seem closer. Do you honestly believe Bailey would score 60-70 points without hurting the team if he had a lot of power play time?
Sorry, but there's just no other way to respond to someone who shoots down arguements and opinions and takes takes things out of context and puts words in people's mouths without expressing disbelief. Someone who refuses to acknowledge or understand what people say are truly unbelievable.
Sorry, but there's just no other way to respond to someone who shoots down arguements and opinions and takes takes things out of context and puts words in people's mouths without expressing disbelief. Someone who refuses to acknowledge or understand what people say are truly unbelievable.
He compared them on a production basis. Not all players that put up the same amount of points are equal however. Hossa is the superior defensive player by a fair margin, and that makes him a notably better player than Bailey.Except you just did. You literally compared the two in order the claim that Bailey is on the same level. There is no other explanation.
He compared them on a production basis. Not all players that put up the same amount of points are equal however. Hossa is the superior defensive player by a fair margin, and that makes him a notably better player than Bailey.
However, if one views Hossa's offensive production sufficient for a top 6 forward, then it would logically indicate that Bailey's offensive production is also sufficient for a top 6 player, since their production at ES is pretty much identical. In this particular aspect of their respective play, they are comparable.
NYI JT91 said:Exactly. What does he do well ? Everyone says defense...okay so does Hossa and Towes, Bergeron, koivu, Nielsen etc but they are in the top 6 because they also bring offense and can drive the play from time to time. Bailey does not. Hence........he should not be in the top 6. I either want him on the 3rd line or off this team.
Maybe this should be in a trade thread. Would swap these two with no regrets. Josh really gets that much? Garth must have been back from a bender when he gave out that contract.As further reference, Marion Hossa is making $7.9m this year. His cap hit is 5.275m. Bailey makes 3.3m
"It is what it is" also describes Josh Bailey.