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HABSoluteDMB11 said:
How the hell are teams like Philly, Detroit, Colorado.... supposed to get their payrolls to $46m before a season would start this year, assuming a deal is reached? If this is the case there are going to be a few teams in A LOT of trouble.

He said its their fault. They were warned 2 years ago according to him.
 

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HABSoluteDMB11 said:
How the hell are teams like Philly, Detroit, Colorado.... supposed to get their payrolls to $46m before a season would start this year, assuming a deal is reached? If this is the case there are going to be a few teams in A LOT of trouble.

Im pretty sure that with the 24% rollback, most teams would be under $46 million.
 

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Bill waters optomisitc??? He's been one of the most pessimistic people through this whole thing.

Hell freezing over folks.
 

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HABSoluteDMB11 said:
How the hell are teams like Philly, Detroit, Colorado.... supposed to get their payrolls to $46m before a season would start this year, assuming a deal is reached? If this is the case there are going to be a few teams in A LOT of trouble.

Every rumor I've seen includes the 24% rollback. After that, Detroit has about $43.3 million committed. They still need to sign Datsyuk. They'd probaly give him a backloaded deal that maxes out their cap this year. Depending on how high the cap is or if there's the ability to go over a couple times, they will try to sign Chelios.
 

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txpd said:
its going to be the wildest 10 day frenzy youve ever seen. it will make the trade deadline pale in comparison.

I doubt it will top the Rangers firesale (for Ranger fans).

They made like 8-10 trades (cant remember the number) within 5 days or something nuts.
 

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A lot of guys in Europe won't be coming back. Kovalchuk, for one, is staying in Russia for the rest of the year.

Will be a strange season, that's for sure.
 

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NYRangers said:
He said its their fault. They were warned 2 years ago according to him.

yep the Sharks Org went on record when they dumped-didn't sign Selane/Nolan/marchment ect that they were preparing for the new salary structure comming from the NHL, going with youth and much cheaper UFA would have them in position. course the Wings, Leafs,flyers we in a win now mode I don't think the fans should be too upset. Rangers were just plain dumb as a box of hammers in player aquisiton.
 

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HABSoluteDMB11 said:
How the hell are teams like Philly, Detroit, Colorado.... supposed to get their payrolls to $46m before a season would start this year, assuming a deal is reached? If this is the case there are going to be a few teams in A LOT of trouble.

Do you remember those salary dump trades where the low budget team has a star player coming up for a big arbitration award or free agency and knows they can't afford to keep him. they then trade him for what appears to be nothing...prospect or picks or even cash.

well, you will see that in reverse. instead of Robert Lang to Detroit from Washington for a 2nd tier prospect and a late first round pick and maybe pick up some salary(which didnt happen), you will see Lang going to Washington for a prospect or a pick and maybe a chunk of contract.

you will see a lot of that.
 

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A lot of guys in Europe won't be coming back. Kovalchuk, for one, is staying in Russia for the rest of the year.

Will be a strange season, that's for sure.

I actually think Kovalchuk will be coming back. Sure, his contract says no... but Russian teams don't turn down a lot of money.
 

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With a 24% rollback, I don't think it will be as bad as people think.


The Flyers will buy out Burke, LeClair and Amonte if they're not traded. The Flyers will have no problem whatsoever getting under any cap.
 

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Curiously the leafs current payroll of $61.9 million with a 24% rollback is exactly $47 Million. They wouldn't have to do ****.
 

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I don't see how Kovalchuk is stuck. What is stopping him? There is no IIHF agreement now. Russian governments and American ones won't care.
 

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go kim johnsson said:
With a 24% rollback, I don't think it will be as bad as people think.


The Flyers will buy out Burke, LeClair and Amonte if they're not traded. The Flyers will have no problem whatsoever getting under any cap.

Assuming a buyout gets a guy off your cap ... a reasonable but not certain assumption. In the NBA it doesn't. Here it probably will.
 

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$46 million - perfect compromise by both at this point.

Just do it.

To make every team happy, as 46 is too high for some teams, why not do 46 for the first year, 45 for the second year, 44 for the third year, 43 for the 4th year, 42 for the 5th year, 41 for the 6th year and 40 for the 7th year.

Include a basement cap at 30 million, that'd go down 2 million over the 7 years of the deal. Add a luxery tax at 35 cents for teams over 38 million, share that money to the lower revenue teams.

That should make everyone else happy.
 

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go kim johnsson said:
There will be tons of trades to start, but in the end, there won't be much trade movement. Deadline day won't be as much fun because teams too close to the cap number won't be able to make moves.

Not really.

How many teams are close, or at the 70million payroll mark ? Probably two, Det and NY.

Assuming a hardcap of 45m, over the long-run salaries and the demand for players that complete a roster will fall to an equilibrium of under a couple million or so of the hardcap/luxury threshold.

The reason why the PA is so adamant against a cap is due to the fact that if it is meaningful in anyway; it will curb inflation and it will exert downward pressure on salaries, and thus, player's will not get as much.
 

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Well

thats assuming that all teams players that are in Europe come back..

I am willing to bet that each team will lose 2-10 million off thier roster due to players finishing out the season in Europe, and then have enough time this summer to even out the payrolls..

Plus..

if a team is a 2-3 players short, call up some minors guys for cheap.. and make it work for one skimpy season..
 

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anyone have a list of what payrolls will be with the 24% rollback along with the RFA's they need to sign

could we see a team like the Pens go after a big named RFA because the other team is close to a cap???
 

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NYRangers said:
Hes on WFAN now...

If they make a deal all teams will have to be under the cap by the start of the season. Teams were warned and will not be grandfathered in. He says there will be tons of trades.


More likely - tons of buyouts.
 
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