John Davidson on 1050 ESPN radio

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  1. Twine Seeking Missle

    Twine Seeking Missle Go monkey go!!!

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    I was just listening to 1050 ESPN in N.Y. and they had John Davidson (rangers announcer) on the air. He seemed EXTREMELY optimistic at the possibility of a deal getting done. He basically stated what I have been thinking all day since I heard the players have accepted a cap. They have simply come too far to let this blow up now. They are finally " speaking the same language " which is not something that has been done throughout this whole process. Players want 52 mil cap, owners want 40... 46 mil should get it done. Lets all hope
     
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    Hes on WFAN now...

    If they make a deal all teams will have to be under the cap by the start of the season. Teams were warned and will not be grandfathered in. He says there will be tons of trades.
     
  3. FanSince2014

    FanSince2014 What'd He Say?

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    $46 million - perfect compromise by both at this point.

    Just do it.
     
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    What about the idea of a dispersal draft?
     
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    By start of the season, you mean this fracitonal season or the next full season?
     
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    The cool thing about a cap system is that more teams can afford more players, thus allowing for more trades. Over the past ten years, we've seen teams sign players to huge contracts, and then can only be traded to other teams that can afford them. Now, if a deal is struck, most teams will be on equal footing to trade.
     
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    I think there will actually be far less trades since teams have to contend with the cap. This is evidenced in the NBA and NFL, where often a big hurdle is making sure that salarise equal out to a degree.

    Now, will there be more trades based on talent only, or primarily, vs. salary dumps? Sure, but I think overall deals will decline.
     
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    There will be tons of trades to start, but in the end, there won't be much trade movement. Deadline day won't be as much fun because teams too close to the cap number won't be able to make moves.
     
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    I do not get the laughter. That had been dicussed as an option. I was wondering if Davidson mentioned it. It makes more sense than 'lots of trades' which sounds a bit chaotic to me:

    We're a team in transition, there's no question about that," said Red Wings senior vice president Jim Devellano, who has worked for the storied franchise since 1982. "Our team was old, but that experienced helped us win three Stanley Cups. Now, it's time to move on.

    "We're going to go back to our the model from the early 1980s, when we kept our draft picks and developed those players."

    Kris Draper will continue to play in Detroit because he has three years left on his deal, signed last summer, and a no-trade clause for the length of the contract. But Draper is prepared to play with a much different team.

    "We know it's going to change the team," he said. "Absolutely, no doubt about it. It's sad. If there's a salary cap and they (NHL owners) get what they want, they told us there would be a dispersal draft and players will be shipped away."


    http://www.hollandsentinel.com/stories/021505/spo_021505035.shtml
     
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    Yes but just because there's a cap at say $46 million doesn't mean that all the teams can afford to spend that much. :shakehead
     
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    Like the NHLPA would ever agree to a dispersal draft.
     
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    The thing is, more teams will be able to afford players. We all can remember players with huge contracts (ie, Lindros, Jagr) that could only be traded to a handful of teams because of those contracts. With contracts being more reasonable, the number of potential trade partners opens up considerably.
     
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    There will be a 32 mil low point he said. So Detriot will be selling Nashville would buy. He said everyone is informed on this and it will happen before any hockey is played.
     
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    Has what he said before had much behind it? there has been scotty bowman saying last month it would get done that weekend, a few others have said other things, just wonder what to make of this. Ranger and NHL heavy in broadcasting but is he a good 'source'? helps to be near the NHL offices too i guess.
     
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    It was a reasonable question. The laughter shows that you have not been paying attention to the hockey news as much as you like to think you have.
     
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    On leafs lunch Bill Waters, said it's only a matter of time before a deal is done.

    He said the 1 pm conference tomorrow can always get scrapped if they're close enough to a deal.
     
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    i think davidson is one of the only guys in the media worth listening to...he's a straight shooter, and doesn't appear to take sides IMO
     
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    JD is a real honest and "fan guy". I trust what he says. Hes not a guy who comes on and puts out rumors or breaks stories.
     
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    Yep ... that's one of the downers of a cap. Unlike the NFL and NBA though, there should be a bunch of teams with cap room if the cap is in the high 40s. That will help.

    High spenders might keep their powder dry on their 10% overage exception until the deadline also, using it if they can sniff the Cup, keeping it if they can't. That will help as well.

    All in all, though, probably not as many trades.
     
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    For the trade deadline, you would see low-ranked teams trying to acquire players whose contracts expire (even if the salary is high) so that they can resign whoever is available during the summer... Especially if the UFA age drops down to 29...
     
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    How the hell are teams like Philly, Detroit, Colorado.... supposed to get their payrolls to $46m before a season would start this year, assuming a deal is reached? If this is the case there are going to be a few teams in A LOT of trouble.
     
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    Heres all of it...

    He says they are finally talking "the same language".

    If they make a deal all teams will have to be under the cap by the start of the season. Teams were warned and will not be grandfathered in. He says there will be tons of trades.

    The league will only go to 45-46 mil tops in his opinion.

    They have to get a deal done, otherwise their out of their minds.

    Not important but says announcers will jump to other sports, can't afford to sit home.

    Thinks they will play.
     
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    its funny, ive been saying that for months and noone seemed to want to believe it.
    if/when they get a deal, between the trading and the free agent signings...its going to be the wildest 10 day frenzy youve ever seen. it will make the trade deadline pale in comparison.
     
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    Exactly who, of any reputation, reported this as any real possibility?

    As far as I remember, Burke and maybe even Daly have rejected this as a ludicrous idea.
     
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