Discussion in 'Washington Capitals' started by BenchBrawl, Jan 17, 2017.
Carlson has 40 points in 52 games?! News to me.
Doesn't have KHL factor. 7,5 and no more! Hopefully.
TSN (Pierre LeBrun) reporting possibility of a sign-and-trade for Carlson, possibly if he insists on an eighth year. (I'm not sure whether 8 years or the total $ amount would be a bigger deal-killer):
James Duthie: Guys, you’ve been talking about the possibility of a sign and trade for John Tavares if he doesn’t want to return to the Islanders. Pierre, could there be other guys that do the sign and trade? We haven’t seen it in the NHL.
Pierre LeBrun: I would say that whatever remote chance there is of John Tavares doing one it’s certainly a possibility, his camp is examining that. The same would hold true for John Carlson, the number one UFA defenceman on this year’s market. He just happens to be leading all defencemen in scoring, perfect timing.
I think his preference is to re-sign in Washington, I know the Caps are going to make that a number one priority but they have challenges with their salary cap. It’s going to be tough to fit that in because the number keeps growing every day. The only reason there’s a possibility of a sign and trade is if the eighth year matters that much to John Carlson.
I think it is of importance to him and, of course, from Washington’s perspective if they can’t sign him, they get something in return if they give him that eighth year and trade him a trade so that’s something to keep an eye on with John Carlson.
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Interesting. Sign and trade Carlson. Trade Holtby or Grubauer. Use said assets to acquire Erik Karlsson. Profit.
It’s gonna take a lot more than what JC74 returns. If the Caps can’t fit his number, how do they fit EK when he’s due a contract in a year?
Carlson is 28, an 8th year would take him to 36. Defensemen usually don't have huge dropoffs, so I don't have a problem with that. Besides getting him locked in now, even if he does drop off (see orpik), it will be on a contract from 8 years ago. Today's overpay is tomorrow's deal.
We have no idea what a signed JC74 returns and we have no idea what Grubauer or Holtby return so it's premature to say they wouldn't have the assets to acquire EK. I'd venture to say a signed JC brings back a 1st+ and Grubauer/Holtby could/will also fetch a 1st. 2 1sts is a pretty good starting point for EK, yeah?
They fit in EK because in another year Orpik isn't on the team any more and neither is his $5.5mm cap hit. And in another year the cap could continue to go up. Or they trade Burakovsky. Fitting EK's cap hit is not a problem.
I feel confident that EK will cost more to acquire than a signed Carlson. That’s all I said. EK and his rumored $10 mil per year will be tough to swallow.
This I agree with. Sign Carlson, develop the kids. Maybe trade for another quality D.
Developing the kids is nice and all, but they have no one who projects to replace Carlson. If you’re going to trade for another quality D if you do lose Carlson that’ll cost you in assets and cap dollars as well. Why not try and pay a little more for the best?
Carlson at 8mm or Karlsson at 9-10mm... would rather have the latter.
They should let Carlson test the market if he wants long-term contract at over 7m AAV.
Well, we can sign Carlson for free. And he'll sign for less than 8M most probably. Younger and more skilled player (Kuzy) signed for less, why would Carlson get more? He has his points from Ovechkin island too and knows it.
As for Karlsson, if Eichel goes for 10+ I dont see Karlsson being realistic at 9M. That's fantasy IMO.
Carlson (without cost of acquiring) for 7,5M or so
Karlsson (costing kings ransom) for 10+
It's not that clear. And no guarantee you will successfully trade for EK in first place. Easy to understand why GMBM is ready to do whatever to sign JC.
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He wins the scoring race among Ds. (Krug won't put 10 points tonight)
In a contract year.
1st Cap to do it since Green