Discussion in 'New Jersey Devils' started by SeidoN, Apr 15, 2018 at 3:17 PM.
Basically sounds like a text-book New Jersey Devil. Hockey smarts and responsible defensively.
I absolutely think this is a realistic expectation.
ELC signing age is considered as the player's age as of September 15th of the calendar year he signs his ELC. Since Joey turns 20 in June, he's considered 20 for this ELC. (And would have been considered 19 if he signed before 2018, etc.).
Only 18 and 19 year old ELCs are eligible to slide so by simply signing his ELC to start this year, a year was burned even if Joey never even joined the team. If this was eligible to slide, the 10 game rule (as far as I know) still applies, so he would have to be in the lineup for 10 playoff games.. the CBA does not distinguish between NHL regular season games and playoff games.
If he stayed 1 more year and then signed an ELC to begin immediately (i.e. signs similarly this time next year), his ELC signing age would be 21 and he still would have a 3 year ELC, with the first year burned immediately = 2 years effectively.
If he had stayed 2 more years (ELC signing age 22), he would then be eligible for a 2 year ELC. The nuance there would have been that had he signed immediately with the Devils, the first year could have been burned and it would effectively be a 1 year ELC. However, had he chosen to go to UFA, he would have to wait until the new league year and would not have been able to burn a year = 2 year ELC (see Butcher, Kerfoot).
I agree that there's very little that can hurt a team by burning ELC years. It's not a year accrued to FA, it's simply having to pay for an extra RFA year earlier on in the player's career.. which almost always will be cheaper than the potential 3.5M full cap hit of a max ELC. It looks like Joey's deal also has no performance bonuses so in this case, the team traded him a lower cap hit/salary for one year of his ELC.
He's got a really heavy release. Powerful skater, strong on the puck / in corners. Above average hands, and reads the play well in both directions. He's not an elite puck carrier who is going to weave through traffic, but he's got enough power and speed to beat defenseman on the outside.
He's essentially the perfect complimentary winger to play with a pair of strong play drivers. I wouldn't hesitate to give him a chance alongside Hall and Nico. Let Palmieri get easier matchups with Mojo.
Just saw this. Sweet!!!
I think we'll have to make a trade at some point, I don't see a way we'll have room for Zacha, McLeod, Bratt, Anderson, and JQ all in the lineup.
Maybe JQ and one of Zacha/McLeod in a package for a LHD?
You think Anderson will challenge for a NHL roster spot as soon as next season?
Right now I'd say a good bet for the Devils lines in 2018-19 are
I think NJ resigns Maroon -- he is very popular in the locker room, should not be cost prohibitive, and adds a physical element our Fs sometimes need more of.
I think UFAs Stafford, Hayes and Grabner are gone. Gibbons' versatility would make him very useful as a spare F, and I can see him filling the 'black ace' role.
What we do not know is how patient Shero will be with Zacha's development. With a ton of $$ under the cap, he could make a play for a UFA C like Backlund, and then dangle Zacha as trade bait to get help at LHD. I still think that Shero's top UFA target will be RHD John Carlson.
You're missing Miles Wood.
Backlund is not UFA. He signed an extension a few months ago.
Bad line for Bratt
I definitely think Shero looks to make a trade, but there's room for whoever earns it.
Besides, I'd rather have viable options for spots and bump a guy like Coleman or Johansson down a line if Bratt or JQ has a terrific year then go into the year keeping that spot open.
I really like the way the Blue Jackets are doing it. Guys like Dubois, Bjorkstrand, Milano have been bumping guys like Foligno, Dubinsky, and Jenner to the fourth line at times. Atkinson was out played by other guys and scratched at one point. It keeps everyone honest and it makes you a much deeper and stronger team.
Plus injuries always strike. One of the biggest reason for the Devils success this year is there wasn't any passengers. We had a good amount of injuries, but we basically ran with 25 NHL forwards and 8 defenders all year.
You spelled Tavares wrong a few times
Perhaps, it depends on how many spots are available. If we bring back Maroon that complicates things.
I think it's possible that one of McLeod/Anderson/maybe even Speers leapfrogs Bratt on the depth chart in training camp and earns a spot in camp.
Right now, I see the Devils keeping Maroon (or adding another middle-six RW).
Gives us something like:
Hall - Hischier - Palmieri
Johansson - Zacha - Maroon
Coleman - Zajac - Noesen
Wood - Boyle
I'd assume the Devils sign another Hayes to be a warm body as the 13th forward. That would leave two spots open, but I would put Zacha, Maroon, Coleman, Noesen, and Wood's spot in flux. Any of them can be bounced around the line-up and/or scratched for Bratt, McLeod, Anderson, or JQ.
Plus there is bound to be injuries, slumps, etc. Always good to have a lot of quality guys.
We should make a thread for 2019 roster discussion, maybe.
Nah. Should be fine. This has a bit to do with where Anderson fits next year.
There's a spot for him but he's with the McLeod, Bratt, and JQ group where they have the inside track, but they need to earn their spot.
You are correct, my bad.
wow...i really didn't think we'd see him up with us next year, let alone on the top line. interesting
I could see it. Joey has the potential to set up with anyone