Jim Benning Era Transaction Summary

[DL44]

Many transactions were made.
Many were scrutinized.
He is still here.
/summary

Trades:

-2014-15-----------

Bonino, Sbisa, 1st (#24 - McCann), 3rd --- Kesler, 3rd (#84 - Deven Sideroff)
Dorsett --- 3rd (#85 - Keegan Iverson)
2nd --- Garrison, 7th (204th - Jack Sadek), Costello
Vey --- 2nd (#50 - Roland McKeown)
Acton --- Lain
Pedan --- Mallet, '16 3rd (came back to us)
Clendening --- Forsling
Conacher --- Jeffrey
Baertschi --- 2nd (#53 - Rasmus Andersson)

-2015-16-----------

3rd (66th - Brisebois) and (#194 McKenzie) --- Lack
7th (210th - Tate Olson) --- McNally
Prust --- Kassian, (#124 Staum)
'16 2nd --- Bieksa
Sutter, (#64 Lockwood) --- Bonino, Clendening, (#55 Gustavsson)
Etem --- Jensen, '17 6th (157- Lakatos)
Granlund --- Shinkaruk
Larsen --- '17 5th (126- Karow)
Futures --- Fox

-2016-17----------

Gudbranson, (#140 Candella) --- McCann, (#33 Asplund), (#94 Ang)
Dahlen --- Burrows
Goldobin, '17 4th( traded to Chi)--- Hansen


-2017-18-----------

5th (#135-Gunnarsson) and 6th (#181-Palmu) -- 4th (#112 Soderlund)
Pouliot -- Pedan, '18 4th (99 - Demin)
Dowd -- Subban
Motte, Jokinen -- Vanek
Lepsic -- Holm

-2018-1019---------

'18 6th (186 - Manukyan), '19 6th (180 - Malone) -- '18 6th (161 - Kannok-Leipert)
Kero -- Chaput
Leivo -- Carcone
Pyatt, McKenna, '19 6th (156-Silovs) -- Nilsson, Archibald
'20 7th, L. Schenn -- Del Zotto
Mazanec -- '20 7th
Spooner -- Gagner
Pearson -- Gudbranson
Dahlen -- Karlsson

-2019-20-----------
Miller -- '19 3rd (71 - Alnefelt), Mazanek, Cond* '20 1st
Perron, '19 7th (215 - Costmer) -- Pyatt, '19 6th (164-Ibragimov)
'19 4th (122- Keppen), '19 6th (175-Plasek) -- '19 4th (102 - Huglen)
Pope -- Beiga
Toffoli -- Schaller, Madden, '20 2nd, Cond. '22 4th
Domingue -- McIntyre

Signings:

-2014-15----------

AHL - Biega, Jeffrey, O'Reilly, Sanguinetti, Andersson, Archibald, Cannata, Freisen, Zalewski
ELC - McCann, Virtanen, Subban, Stewart
Miller -- 3 yrs, $6 mil per
Vrbata -- 2 yrs, $5 mil per
Kassian -- 2 yr, $1.75 per
Weber -- 1yr, $850K
Tanev -- 1yr, $2mil
Tanev -- 5yr, $4.45 mil per
Vey -- 1yr, $735K
Dorsett -- 4yr, $2.65 mil per
Sbisa -- 3 yr, $3.6 per
Kenins -- 1yr, $600K
Sautner -- 3 yr, $678K (ELC)
Hutton -- 2 yr, $900K (ELC)

-2015-16--------------

AHL - Fedun 1yr, $600K, Bachman 2yrs, $575K per, Jones 1yr, $600K, Grenier, 1yr, Witt
Baerstchi -- 1yr, $900K
Vey -- 1yr, $1 mil
Bartkowski -- 1yr, $1.75 mil
Weber -- 1yr, $1.5 mil
Markstrom -- 2yrs, $1.55 per
Cracknell -- 1 yr, $575K
Corrado -- 1yr $600K
Clendening -- 1yr $760K
Sutter -- 5 yrs, $4.375 per
Brisebois -- 3yr $734K (ELC)
Zalewski -- 3 gm, $575K
Biega -- 2 yrs, $750 per
Tryamkin -- 2 yr, $925K (ELC)

-2016-17----------------

AHL -- Demko -- 3 yr, $925K (ELC), Garteig -- 1 yr, $925K (ELC), Laplante -- 3 yr, $837K (ELC), Nilsson -- 1 yr, $575K (2-way), Chaput, Billens, Rendulic, Carcone 3yr, (ELC), Zalewski -- 1yr, 633K (2-way), Bachman -- 1 yr, $650K (2-way), Grenier -- 1yr, $600K (2-way)
Stecher -- 2 yr, $925K (ELC)
Rodin -- 1 yr, $950K
Granlund -- 2 yr, $900K
Baertschi -- 2 yr, $1.85 per
Etem -- 1 yr, $775K
Eriksson -- 6 yr, $6 mil per
Larsen -- 1 yr, $1.025 mil
Markstrom -- 3 yr, $3.667 mil per
Pedan -- 1yr, $700K (2-way)
Skille -- 1yr, $700k
Hutton -- 2yr, $2.8 mil per
MacEwen -- 3yr, $848K (ELC)
Shore -- 1yr, $600K
Chatfield -- 3yr, $765K (ELC)
Molino -- (ELC)
Megna -- 1 yr, $675K

-2017-18-----------

Pedan -- 1 yr, $750K (2-way)
Holm -- 1 yr, $925K (ELC)
Gudbranson -- 1 yr, $3.5 mil
Rodin -- 1 yr, $700K
Gagner -- 3 yrs, $3.15 mil per
Del Zotto -- 2 yrs, $3 mil per
Wiercioch -- 1 yr, $650K
Burmistrov -- 1 yr, $900K
Nilsson -- 2 yrs, $2.5 mil per
Vanek -- 1 yr, $2 mil
Horvat -- 6 yrs, $5.5 mil per
Gadjovich -- 3 yrs, $845K (ELC)
Archibald -- 1 yr, $650K
Gudbranson -- 3 yrs, $4 mil per
Biega -- 2 yr, $825K
Lind -- 3 yr, $892K (ELC)
Sautner -- 2 yr, $675K
Gaudette -- 3 yr, $917K (ELC)


-2018-19-----------
Pettersson -- 3 yr, $925K (ELC)
Palmu -- 3 yr, $826K (ELC)
DiPietro -- 3 yr, $826K (ELC)
Boucher -- 1 yr, $725K (2-way)
Bauchman -- 1 yr, $675K (2-way)
Granlund -- 1 yr, $1.475 mil
Pouliot -- 1 yr, $1.1 mil
Schaller -- 2 yrs, $1.9 mil per
Roussel -- 4 yrs, $3 mil per
Beagle -- 4 yrs, $3 mil per
Baertschi -- 3 yrs, $3,367 mil per
Archibald -- 1 yr, $650K (2way)
Stecher -- 2 yrs, $2.325 mil per
Virtanen -- 2 yrs, $1.25 mil per
Eliot -- 3 yrs, (ELC)
Leighton -- 1 yr, $650K (2way)
Hughes -- 3 yrs, (ELC)
Teves -- 1 yr, (ELC)
Kielly -- 2 yrs, (ELC)
Rafferty -- 1 yr, (ELC)

-2019-20-----------
Demko -- 2 yrs, $1.05 mil per
Edler -- 2 yrs, $6 mil per
McIntyre -- 1 yr, $700K
Benn -- 2 yr, $2 mil per
Myers -- 5 yr, $6 mil per
Graovac -- 1 yr, $700K
Fantenberg -- 1 yr, $850K
Motte -- 1 yr, 975K
Bailey -- 1 yr, $7090K
Leivo -- 1 yr, $1.5 mil
Perron -- 1 yr, $715K
Teves -- 2 yr, $700K per
Rafferty -- 2 yr, $700K
Boucher -- 1 yr, $750K
Ferland — 4yr, $3.5 mil per

Draft Class:

2014: Virtanen, McCann, Demko, Tryamkin, Forsling, Pettit, Stewart
2015: Boeser, Brisebois, Zhukenov, Neill, Gaudette, Jasek, Olson
2016: Juolevi, Lockwood, Candella, Stukel, Abols, McKenzie
2017: Pettersson, Lind, Gadjovich, DiPietro, Rathbone, Gunnarsson, Palmu, Brassard
2018: Hughes, Woo, Madden, Utunen, Manukyan, Thiessen
2019: Podkolzin, Hoglander, Keppen, Focht, Silovs, Plasek, Malone, Mcdonough, Costmar
2020: 1*, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
2021: 1*, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
2022: 1, 2, 3, 4**, 5, 6, 7
*If Canucks make the playoffs - '20 1st goes to TB. If they miss the playoffs, '21 1st goes to TB..
** Goes to LA if we re-sign Toffoli

14-15 turnover:

OUT:
Garrison, Kesler, Santorelli, Booth, Sestito, Dalpe, Schroeder, Welsh, Lain, Pelletier, Sauve, Ferriero, Mallet, Forsling
IN:
Vrbata, Miller, Bonino, Vey, Dorsett, Sbisa, McMillan, Baertschi, Sanguinetti, Pedan, Clendening, Conacher, Acton, Hamilton


15-16 turnover:

OUT:
Bieksa, Lack, Matthias, Richardson, Kassian, Bonino, Stanton, Clendening, Eriksson, Conacher, O'Reilly, Sanguinetti, McNally, McMillan, Defazio, Jensen, Corrado, Shinkaruk, Cracknell, Fox
IN:
Bartkowski, Prust, Sutter, Fedun, Bachman, Jones, Cracknell, Witt, Etem, Granlund, Larsen


16-17 Turnover:

OUT:
McCann, Higgins, Hamhuis, Kenins, Cannata, Weber, Vrbata, Vey, Blomstrand, Freisen, Fedun, Etem, Burrows, Hansen
IN:
Rodin, Stecher, Laplante, Gudbranson, Nilsson, Eriksson, Chaput, Billens, Rendulic, Carcone, Skille, Boucher, Dahlen, Goldobin, Cramarosa, MacEwen, Shore, Molino


17-18 Turnover:

OUT: Holm, Vanek, Subban, Rodin, Burmistrov, Pedan, Shore, T.Nilsson, Larsen, Miller, Grenier, Billins, Tryamkin (still own for 5 yrs)
Expansion draft loss: Sbisa

IN: Pouliot, Holm, Gagner, Del Zotto, Wiercioch, Nilsson, Burmistrov, Vanek, Dowd, Lepsic, Jokinen, Motte


18-19 Turnover:

OUT: Daniel Sedin, Henrik Sedin, Jokinen, Chaput, Wiercioch, Cassels, Stewart, Celderholm, Megna, Dowd, Leipsic, Carcone, Nilsson, Archibald, McKenna, Del Zotto, Gagner, Dahlen, Gudbranson

IN: Kero, Roussel, Beagle, Schaller, Leivo, McKenna, Pyatt, Schenn, Mazanec, Spooner, Pearson, Karlsson, Leighton, Teves, Rafferty

19-20 Turnover:

OUT: McIntyre, Schaller, Madden,Dorsett, Pouliot, Gaunce, Mazanek, Pyatt, Schenn, Granlund, Kero, Hutton(UFA's: McEneny, Leighton)

IN: Domingue, Toffoli, JT Miller, F . Perron, McIntyre, Benn, Myers, Graovic, Fantenberg, Ferland, Bailey

This is more of a reference thread, rather than a discussion thread.

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[DL44]

Let me know if I'm missing any transactions or bodies....

 

[M2Beezy]

Pedan (unfortunately)

 

[iceburg]

First, thanks to DL44 for summarizing all the Benning era transactions.

I appreciate many posters are unhappy with most Benning trades but I think the criticism a little unfair. He has done an ok job on trades IMO (I wouldn't say the same thing about signings).

I've placed my ranking (1-5) below based on the following:

1 - terrible trade
2 - not good
3 - no strong opinion
4 - good trade
5 - great trade

Note that I have done the rankings with the benefit of hindsight. So, for example, the Clendenning/Forsling trade I would probably have given a 3 at the outset. But It's currently listed as a 1 based on how it has all played out. Baertschi for a 2nd is the opposite: I would have given it a 3, but now it's listed as a 4.

-2014-15-----------
2 Bonino, Sbisa, 1st (#24 - McCann), 3rd --- Kesler, 3rd (#84 - Deven Sideroff)
Note: on the face it's a 1. But Benning can't be entirely blamed given Kelser's demands and restrictions.
3 Dorsett --- 3rd (#85 - Keegan Iverson)
3 2nd --- Garrison, 7th (204th - Jack Sadek), Costello
1 Vey --- 2nd (#50 - Roland McKeown)
3 Acton --- Lain
4 Pedan --- Mallet, '16 3rd (came back to us)
1 Clendening --- Forsling
3 Conacher --- Jeffrey
4 Baertschi --- 2nd (#53 - Rasmus Andersson)

-2015-16-----------
4 3rd (66th - Brisebois) and (#194 McKenzie) --- Lack
3 7th (210th - Tate Olson) --- McNally
1 Prust --- Kassian, (#124 Staum)
4 '16 2nd --- Bieksa
2 Sutter, (#64 Lockwood) --- Bonino, Clendening, (#55 Gustavsson)
3 Etem --- Jensen, '17 6th
4 Granlund --- Shinkaruk
2 Larsen --- '17 5th
3 Futures --- Fox

-2016-17----------

4 Gudbranson, (#140 Candella) --- McCann, (#33 Asplund), (#94 Ang)
5 Dahlen --- Burrows
4 Goldobin, '17 4th* --- Hansen

 

[racerjoe]

First, thanks to DL44 for summarizing all the Benning era transactions.

I appreciate many posters are unhappy with most Benning trades but I think the criticism a little unfair. He has done an ok job on trades IMO (I wouldn't say the same thing about signings).

I've placed my ranking (1-5) below based on the following:

1 - terrible trade
2 - not good
3 - no strong opinion
4 - good trade
5 - great trade

Note that I have done the rankings with the benefit of hindsight. So, for example, the Clendenning/Forsling trade I would probably have given a 3 at the outset. But It's currently listed as a 1 based on how it has all played out. Baertschi for a 2nd is the opposite: I would have given it a 3, but now it's listed as a 4.

The problem is looking at some of these trades in a vacuum colors them sometimes more positive then they are.

The Kesler trade, I know you only had it as a 2, but part of what made it a bad trade was who and what we targeted. Bonino was an expensive asset, that we could have replaced in other ways, and we actually put value on Sbisa. it was just bad.

Or the lack trade. Take out where Lack is now. He still got half of what the next closest comparable got.

That makes them terrible trades.

 

[DL44]

First, thanks to DL44 for summarizing all the Benning era transactions.

I appreciate many posters are unhappy with most Benning trades but I think the criticism a little unfair. He has done an ok job on trades IMO (I wouldn't say the same thing about signings).

I've placed my ranking (1-5) below based on the following:

1 - terrible trade
2 - not good
3 - no strong opinion - Even, wash, meh
4 - good trade
5 - great trade

Modified the definition of #3.
I will try limit the evaluation to the individual transaction.

4/5 - Dahlen --- Burrows - 5 only cuz Dahlen hasn't played in a Canuck jersey. So YET to fail... yet.
4 - 3rd (66th - Brisebois) and (#194 McKenzie) --- Lack - liked it at the time - love it if Brisebois pans out the way i think he will.
4 - Granlund --- Shinkaruk - on its way to 5 status
4 - Goldobin, '17 4th* --- Hansen
4 - Dorsett --- 3rd (#85 - Keegan Iverson) - was perceived as a great addition - till The Contract. Separate evaluation.
4- '16 2nd --- Bieksa
4/3 - Baertschi --- 2nd (#53 - Rasmus Andersson) - My Baertschi love is fading.
4/3 - Gudbranson, (#140 Candella) --- McCann, (#33 Asplund), (#94 Ang)
3 - 2nd --- Garrison, 7th (204th - Jack Sadek), Costello
3 - Sutter, (#64 Lockwood) --- Bonino, Clendening, (#55 Gustavsson) - Still think Sutter is a good component for a good team. Lockwood looks like a player
3 - Futures --- Fox - remember the attempted uproar when this trade was announced? heh
3 - Etem --- Jensen, '17 6th
3 - 7th (210th - Tate Olson) --- McNally - next to nothing for something
3 - Acton --- Lain
3 - Conacher --- Jeffrey
3 - Clendening --- Forsling - Benning made a read on Forsling and that Clendening was a better NHLer. 3 now.. 2 if Forsling becomes a NHL regular. 1 if Forsling is good.
2 - Bonino, Sbisa, 1st (#24 - McCann), 3rd --- Kesler, 3rd (#84 - Deven Sideroff) - tough one to evaluate. 4 at the time, but assets acquired not deemed valuable enough to retain - did well to spin those into better pieces
2 - Pedan --- Mallet, '16 3rd (came back to us) - hasn't made the jump yet.
2 - Prust --- Kassian, (#124 Staum). Rollercoaster : 1-when made, 4-when we found out why, 5 - when Kassian hit a tree, 1-Prust's first preseason game, 4-Prust's first 10 gms, -3 - after his injury. Trade that had to be made.
2/1 - Larsen --- '17 5th
1 - Vey --- 2nd (#50 - Roland McKeown) - liked the thinking - but nope.


* Note * All MY opinion. Since its inevitable some panties will bunch up.

 

[Exquisite]

Wondering how you have given him so many good trades.

He's rated dead last amongst GMs from an unbiased view.

https://hockey-graphs.com/2017/05/04/the-2017-nhl-gm-report-card-part-3/

^ my only disagreement is Bergevin who should be #30 for his deadline trades

 

[DL44]

Wondering how you have given him so many good trades.

He's rated dead last amongst GMs from an unbiased view.

https://hockey-graphs.com/2017/05/04/the-2017-nhl-gm-report-card-part-3/

^ my only disagreement is Bergevin who should be #30 for his deadline trades

Which one of my 'good' trades do you disagree with?

4/5 - Dahlen --- Burrows - 5 only cuz Dahlen hasn't played in a Canuck jersey. So YET to fail... yet.
4 - 3rd (66th - Brisebois) and (#194 McKenzie) --- Lack - liked it at the time - love it if Brisebois pans out the way i think he will.
4 - Granlund --- Shinkaruk - on its way to 5 status
4 - Goldobin, '17 4th* --- Hansen
4 - Dorsett --- 3rd (#85 - Keegan Iverson) - was perceived as a great addition - till The Contract. Separate evaluation.
4- '16 2nd --- Bieksa

 

[iceburg]

The problem is looking at some of these trades in a vacuum colors them sometimes more positive then they are.

The Kesler trade, I know you only had it as a 2, but part of what made it a bad trade was who and what we targeted. Bonino was an expensive asset, that we could have replaced in other ways, and we actually put value on Sbisa. it was just bad.

Or the lack trade. Take out where Lack is now. He still got half of what the next closest comparable got.

That makes them terrible trades.

Yeah, as I said I was looking at all of these with the benefit of hindsight. Essentially, knowing what we know now, would I do the trade again. I guess I don't see door number 2 in the Kesler thing. Benning was pretty much back into a corner and got as much as he could get from Anaheim. It's a matter of opinion, I guess, whether or not he could have gotten more. So, I'm not giving him a 1 because he actually got some assets. But I'm not giving him higher than a two because some of those assets (Sbisa) appeared to be valued too highly at the time given the benefit of hindsight. i.e. still a bad trade but not a terrible trade.
On the Lack deal, two things factor in. First, Lack is essentially a back-up goalie. He had a brief run in Vancouver where he looked like he could potentially be a #1 but it didn't last after the trade for whatever reason. And, second, I think Brisebois is a decent prospect. Again, knowing what we know now, would I make the trade again. Yes. This moves it into the 4 category.
I appreciate your point that Benning could potentially gotten more in both cases. That didn't factor in my assessment.

 

[iceburg]

Modified the definition of #3.

I originally has written "meh" for 3.

 

[y2kcanucks]

The fact that people rank the Gudbranson trade as a good trade, or anything but an awful trade, is shocking.

 

[racerjoe]

Yeah, as I said I was looking at all of these with the benefit of hindsight. Essentially, knowing what we know now, would I do the trade again. I guess I don't see door number 2 in the Kesler thing. Benning was pretty much back into a corner and got as much as he could get from Anaheim. It's a matter of opinion, I guess, whether or not he could have gotten more. So, I'm not giving him a 1 because he actually got some assets. But I'm not giving him higher than a two because some of those assets (Sbisa) appeared to be valued too highly at the time given the benefit of hindsight. i.e. still a bad trade but not a terrible trade.
On the Lack deal, two things factor in. First, Lack is essentially a back-up goalie. He had a brief run in Vancouver where he looked like he could potentially be a #1 but it didn't last after the trade for whatever reason. And, second, I think Brisebois is a decent prospect. Again, knowing what we know now, would I make the trade again. Yes. This moves it into the 4 category.
I appreciate your point that Benning could potentially gotten more in both cases. That didn't factor in my assessment.

Lack's brief run of good goaltending is longer significantly than his long bad run...

The Kesler trade we may have been backed into a corner, but we chose Bonino who would have been worth a lot to Ana instead of going a different route. I would argue being backed into a corner too, but whatever I will let that slide.

You really could have this look for most of his trades.

 

[y2kcanucks]

My rankings, based on the following scale:

1 - terrible trade
2 - not good
3 - meh
4 - good trade
5 - great trade


-2014-15-----------
1 Bonino, Sbisa, 1st (#24 - McCann), 3rd --- Kesler, 3rd (#84 - Deven Sideroff)
2 Dorsett --- 3rd (#85 - Keegan Iverson)
3 2nd --- Garrison, 7th (204th - Jack Sadek), Costello
1 Vey --- 2nd (#50 - Roland McKeown)
3 Acton --- Lain
2 Pedan --- Mallet, '16 3rd (came back to us)
1 Clendening --- Forsling
3 Conacher --- Jeffrey
3 Baertschi --- 2nd (#53 - Rasmus Andersson)

-2015-16-----------
2 3rd (66th - Brisebois) and (#194 McKenzie) --- Lack
3 7th (210th - Tate Olson) --- McNally
1 Prust --- Kassian, (#124 Staum)
4 '16 2nd --- Bieksa
1 Sutter, (#64 Lockwood) --- Bonino, Clendening, (#55 Gustavsson)
3 Etem --- Jensen, '17 6th
2 Granlund --- Shinkaruk
2 Larsen --- '17 5th
3 Futures --- Fox

-2016-17----------

1 Gudbranson, (#140 Candella) --- McCann, (#33 Asplund), (#94 Ang)
5 Dahlen --- Burrows
3 Goldobin, '17 4th* --- Hansen[/QUOTE]

 

[VanJack]

Watching the Pens in these playoffs, you have to scratch your head at what's happened to a guy like Derek Poulliot.....high first-rounder and big-time scorer in the WHL, but an RFA this year and spent more time in the minors than the NHL...what happened to him?

Could be be a target for Jimbo?.....there's the Portland connection with Travis Green....would he be worth a gamble for the Canucks, or is he a bust?

 

[DL44]

Watching the Pens in these playoffs, you have to scratch your head at what's happened to a guy like Derek Poulliot.....high first-rounder and big-time scorer in the WHL, but an RFA this year and spent more time in the minors than the NHL...what happened to him?

Could be be a target for Jimbo?.....there's the Portland connection with Travis Green....would he be worth a gamble for the Canucks, or is he a bust?

Should be Vegas bound. Altho the pens now seem to have a handful of very desirable young forwards (if eligible). So much focus as been on the Pens' goalies for the expansion draft... but they are lining up to lose a good skater if (I predict when) Vegas passes on their goalie option.

 

[y2kcanucks]

Should be Vegas bound. Altho the pens now seem to have a handful of very desirable young forwards (if eligible). So much focus as been on the Pens' goalies for the expansion draft... but they are lining up to lose a good skater if (I predict when) Vegas passes on their goalie option.

Why would Vegas pass on an elite goalie?

I would be happy trading Gudbranson for Pouliot.

 

[iceburg]

2 - Prust --- Kassian, (#124 Staum). Rollercoaster : 1-when made, 4-when we found out why, 5 - when Kassian hit a tree, 1-Prust's first preseason game, 4-Prust's first 10 gms, -3 - after his injury. Trade that had to be made.

It was a rollercoaster but it never got close to a 4 for me.

 

[ProstheticConscience]

So to summarize this entire thread preemptively:

Out: draft picks, good hockey players.

In: bad hockey players.

 

[Tim McCracken]

The fact that people rank the Gudbranson trade as a good trade, or anything but an awful trade, is shocking.

It's not good or awful....yet.

 

[VanJack]

Most of these trades are of the 'meh' variety.....I have less issue with the deals than the Canucks obsession with re-signing some of these guys to ridiculous contracts....get ready, Gudbranson is next....and what also stands out is the penchant for coughing up draft picks for mediocre talent, most of whom aren't even on the roster anymore.

 

[TheWolf*]

The fact that people rank the Gudbranson trade as a good trade, or anything but an awful trade, is shocking.

Y2koilers is bang on, on this one. The trade looks to be not only bad, but in retrospect horrid. The Canucks could have just picked up a Kris Russell for free, kept McCann and their pick. Gudbranson really does not seem to be good at anything. Oilers called this one right. Good job, Oilers. You da man (I think....you never answered me on that).

 

[Fat Tony]

The bait has been set. Now let's see if TheWolf gets a bite.

 

[Jyrki]

My rankings, based on the following scale:

1 - terrible trade
2 - not good
3 - meh
4 - good trade
5 - great trade


-2014-15-----------
1 Bonino, Sbisa, 1st (#24 - McCann), 3rd --- Kesler, 3rd (#84 - Deven Sideroff)
2 Dorsett --- 3rd (#85 - Keegan Iverson)
3 2nd --- Garrison, 7th (204th - Jack Sadek), Costello
1 Vey --- 2nd (#50 - Roland McKeown)
3 Acton --- Lain
2 Pedan --- Mallet, '16 3rd (came back to us)
1 Clendening --- Forsling
3 Conacher --- Jeffrey
3 Baertschi --- 2nd (#53 - Rasmus Andersson)

-2015-16-----------
2 3rd (66th - Brisebois) and (#194 McKenzie) --- Lack
3 7th (210th - Tate Olson) --- McNally
1 Prust --- Kassian, (#124 Staum)
4 '16 2nd --- Bieksa
1 Sutter, (#64 Lockwood) --- Bonino, Clendening, (#55 Gustavsson)
3 Etem --- Jensen, '17 6th
2 Granlund --- Shinkaruk
2 Larsen --- '17 5th
3 Futures --- Fox

-2016-17----------

1 Gudbranson, (#140 Candella) --- McCann, (#33 Asplund), (#94 Ang)
5 Dahlen --- Burrows
3 Goldobin, '17 4th* --- Hansen

I'd bump up the Kassian trade to 3 - he really was a dead asset at the time and his tenure in Montreal proved it. Otherwise those ratings are pretty accurate. Trades like Vey and Clendening are prime examples of Jimbo pissing away valuable piece for absolutely nothing, under pressure by ownership to try to accelerate a rebuild, and reflects very poorly on his record.

 

[racerjoe]

I'd bump up the Kassian trade to 3 - he really was a dead asset at the time and his tenure in Montreal proved it. Otherwise those ratings are pretty accurate. Trades like Vey and Clendening are prime examples of Jimbo pissing away valuable piece for absolutely nothing, under pressure by ownership to try to accelerate a rebuild, and reflects very poorly on his record.

We paid to get rid of him... then after the "incident" Montreal got an asset they needed. Montreal basically got 2 5th rounders' to help them out of the cap issues.

 

[y2kcanucks]

We paid to get rid of him... then after the "incident" Montreal got an asset they needed. Montreal basically got 2 5th rounders' to help them out of the cap issues.

This.

Paying to get rid of a player like Kassian was so incredibly stupid it's hard to put into words. Only an idiot like Jim Benning would sign off on that.