Player Discussion Jeff Gorton

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  1. Overcast

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    Just have to wait until Miller's book comes out. ;)
     
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    The Rangers didn't want to pay Miller. Once you give him a long-term contract for $5M plus,Miller is yours. Pottery barn theory. You broke it. You own it. They didn't trust him.
     
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    Regarding the past trade deadline and all the **** Gorton took let’s take a look

    Nash. Invisible in the playoffs so far and missed a month injured
    Grabner. Three points and a healthy scratch in the playoffs
    Miller. Very good end of the season and now invisible in the
    Playoffs
    McDonough. Solid defensively. Eats a lot of minutes. No offense

    All of this for 4 high picks and three current nhl players (two of whom we could keep or flip for assets). Three prospects who look like they could be part of our core. Plus close to 20 million saved against the cap

    ANYONE COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS SHOULD SHUT UP. THE MAN SHOULD HAVE A STATUE BUILT OUTSIDE OF MSG IN HIS HONOR BEFORE HE’S COMPLAINED ABOUT
     
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    People are entitled to have their viewpoints regarding him. However, let's hold off on the statue building until we see what happens at the draft and what he does in the offseason to grow the asset base.
     
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    I'm a big fan of JG and everything he's done up to this point but people could have other valid opinions, telling people to shut up about a differing opinion is dumb
     
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    I woke up prematurely from a nightmare today. JT Miller was lighting it up in the playoffs and I was very upset. Hope you know what you're doing Gorton.
     
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    probably missphrased but the guy wasn't saying Gorton should have a statue, I think he was saying the only players anyone should complain about losing are statue-worthy players
     
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    "...the Rangers homed in on Libor Hajek, the 20-year-old defenseman whom Tampa Bay had selected 37th overall in 2016. General manager Steve Yzerman refused to part with him until Miller became part of an expanded conversation in which Vladislav Namestnikov was then added to the mix."

    Didn't think it was possible to be even angrier about this trade. Clearly I was wrong.
     
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    The deadline deal looks a lot better for us Rangers and Gorton when the playoffs started as predicted, lol. :)
    But I`m still not too certain about Zucc even though we could need assets, but it would not be a trade move to improve this team short term at least who will be hard to replace. But if he wants a new challenge or go to a contending team - I don`t even know hence why Gorton should talk with him about the future.
     
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    Part of me is relieved that Gorton didn't put Miller in just to get Vlad, thinking he was Miller's equal.
     
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    Me too. I’d be worried if Gorton thought Miller was better than Namestnikov.
     
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    can't trade Zucc, he's a heart and soul guy we need him for both his production and for team chemistry
     
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    Have you ever seen Hajek play? Just curious
     
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    Haha, as of right now he is.
     
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    Admittedly just highlights. But literally everything I’ve read about him says his ceiling is a middle pairing stay at home D. Not a bad player by any means, but not something you give into an ultimatum for.
     
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    Offensively, yes. Overall? I think they are equal. Namestnikov is a more complete player. We needed a 2-way player after trading away Grabner and Nash.
     
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    Namestnikov will be cheaper to sign and he's more capable as a center if needed. Again, it's been stated many times that the Rangers did not want to commit long-term to keep Miller. Did the Rangers "lose" this exchange purely from hockey stance in isolation? Maybe, but then it is primitive to look at anything in isolation, and as stated above the McD trade with TBL might not have happened altogether, and then what? The same folks would be screaming bloody murder if Gorton got what likely would've been a lesser return from TML or another suitor.
     
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    can't believe we have to wait another 4-5 months for all this to play out. That's a lot of Stanton strikeouts!
     
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    I’ll take things that were said about Ryan Callahan in 2014 for 1000 Alex.

    Let me ask all of the pro zucc people this: what are you willing to pay him on his next deal and are you prepared to pay that knowing that his best hockey is behind him?
     
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    I am a huge Gorts fan but to say his grade at this point is incomplete is a HUGE understatement. HUGE.

    If we pick 11OA and miss and then package our other late 1st(s) to move up and miss again and we ice largely the same team next year as this past one what will your assessment be then? If we bring in Kovy on a 4-5 year term? If we end up with a 10 plus year rebuild?

    The truth is there's a lot that can go one way or the other and until we have some answers I'm not building him anything.
     
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    Funny, because I often read that he’s got a 1st pair ceiling but projects as a 2nd pairing guy.
     
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    Machinehead Gorton is not new

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    Amazing how they put Killorn back with Stamkos and Kuch and Miller instantly went back to being Miller.
     
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    It’s almost like he’s not very good :sarcasm:
     
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    And Killorn all of a sudden became really good. It's almost like there is an underlying factor people have chosen to ignore
     

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