Prospect Info: Isles Prospect Talk PART XI

[BelovedIsles]

I hope management does everything in their power to convince him to come over. Give him an incentive laden, lucrative contract w an out clause to the KHL, if it doesn’t work out.

Oh and buy Greiss out in the process to free up money and a spot.

 

[pckstpr31]

Had the chance to watch Cockerill a couple times in the Hockey East playoffs/championship game. I wasn't sure what team had his rights but immediately had to check after watching him play. Has speed to burn and pretty decent hands to go with it. Competes really hard as well.

 

[doublechili]

Had the chance to watch Cockerill a couple times in the Hockey East playoffs/championship game. I wasn't sure what team had his rights but immediately had to check after watching him play. Has speed to burn and pretty decent hands to go with it. Competes really hard as well.

Thanks for the report. He wasn't a high pick, so if he turns out to be a speedy 4th liner/PKer, that would be a good return. From your description, sounds like that's at least a possibility.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

Had the chance to watch Cockerill a couple times in the Hockey East playoffs/championship game. I wasn't sure what team had his rights but immediately had to check after watching him play. Has speed to burn and pretty decent hands to go with it. Competes really hard as well.

I've often wondered why a number USNTDP kids sometimes don't get drafted or at least don't get drafted until late.

Cockerill isn't big, but if you've got speed to kill and you spend time in the program showing that you can play a team game and do all the little things a team needs from its lower line players, then what's not to like?

For a 7th rounder, he's had a lovely little pure freshman season. I'm really curious to see what he can do next year.

 

[scott99]

Bellows scores to reach the 40 goals and 70 point marks. Solid season for him in just 54 games played.

Prorated over a season his totals are 53 goals 40assists 93pts.
Those numbers would rank him 4th in goals scored and 11th on total points in the WHL

Not earth shattering but pretty solid and respectable.

My hopes for Bellows before the season, was that he would score 40+ goals, and he did it, finished with 41 I believe. Had a great WJHC as well, record breaking. So he really delivered the type of season I was hoping for. He is still, in my opinion, a sniper who will score 30+ in the NHL. Good size and plays with grit. Perfect for a 1st line sniper. Loved the pick when we made it, and still love it.

 

[Riseonfire]

My hopes for Bellows before the season, was that he would score 40+ goals, and he did it, finished with 41 I believe. Had a great WJHC as well, record breaking. So he really delivered the type of season I was hoping for. He is still, in my opinion, a sniper who will score 30+ in the NHL. Good size and plays with grit. Perfect for a 1st line sniper. Loved the pick when we made it, and still love it.

50 goals in 62 games if you count the WJC.

 

[Glory Days]

My hopes for Bellows before the season, was that he would score 40+ goals, and he did it, finished with 41 I believe. Had a great WJHC as well, record breaking. So he really delivered the type of season I was hoping for. He is still, in my opinion, a sniper who will score 30+ in the NHL. Good size and plays with grit. Perfect for a 1st line sniper. Loved the pick when we made it, and still love it.

Assuming we resign Lee that could be two good goal scorers on the left side in our top six.

 

[xECK29x]

* = current assignment
+ = on IR or just hurt

NHL - New York Islanders

PLAYER	POS	DRAFT POS.	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
Mathew Barzal	C	2015 round 1 #16	72	19	54	73	26	0
* Anthony Beauvillier	LW/C	2015 round 1 #28	61	14	11	25	12	-3
Josh Ho-Sang	RW	2014 round 1 #28	22	2	10	12	2	-7
Ryan Pulock	D	2013 round 1 #15	58	7	19	26	12	-8
* Sebastian Aho	D	2017 round 5 #139	22	1	3	4	6	-5
Michael Dal Colle	LW	2014 round 1 #5	4	0	0	0	0	0

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AHL - Bridgeport Sound Tigers

PLAYER	POS	DRAFT POS.	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
+ Devon Toews (out for the year)	D	2014 round 4 #108	30	8	14	22	8	3
* Michael Dal Colle	LW	2014 round 1 #5	54	7	17	24	26	-10
Kyle Burroughs	D	2013 round 7 #196	63	6	17	23	71	14
Kyle Schempp	C	2014 round 6 #155	23	2	2	4	4	2
John Stevens	C	Undrafted FA	56	4	9	13	17	4
Mitchell Vande Sompel	D	2015 round 3 #82	46	4	19	23	28	-6
Parker Wotherspoon	D	2015 round 4 #112	48	7	10	17	24	4
Sebastian Aho	D	2017 round 5 #139	30	9	11	20	10	2
* Josh Ho-Sang	RW	2014 round 1 #28	39	7	18	25	32	-1
Anthony Beauvillier	LW/C	2015 round 1 #28	3	2	0	2	0	2

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ECHL - Worcester Railers

PLAYER	POS	DRAFT POS.	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
* Kyle Schempp	C	2014 round 6 #155	1	0	2	2	0	0

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CHL

PLAYER	POS	DRAFT POS.	TEAM	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
Kieffer Bellows	LW/C	2016 round 1 #19	Portland Winterhawks	56	41	33	74	63	40
David Quenneville	D	2016 round 7 #200	Medicine Hat Tigers	70	26	54	80	58	7
Arnaud Durandeau	LW	2017 round 6 #165	Halifax Mooseheads	67	20	33	53	56	1

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USHL

PLAYER	POS	DRAFT POS.	TEAM	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
Andong Song	D	2015 round 6 #172	Madison Capitols	45	1	0	1	6	-8

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NCAA

PLAYER	POS	DRAFT POS.	TEAM	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
Nick Pastujov	LW	2016 round 7 #193	Univ. of Michigan	33	3	10	13	26	3
Collin Adams	LW	2016 round 6 #170	Univ. of North Dakota	26	5	3	8	12	-8
Logan Cockerill	LW	2017 round 7 #201	Boston Univ.	35	7	12	19	8	6
Benjamin Mirageas	D	2017 round 3 #77	Providence College	38	8	11	19	23	5

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Europe

PLAYER	POS	DRAFT POS.	TEAM	GP	G	A	PTS	PIM	+/-
Robin Salo	D	2017 round 2 #46	* Sport (Liiga)	43	0	5	5	14	-11
			Hermes (Mestis)	2	0	0	0	2	-2
Otto Koivula	LW/RW	2016 round 4 #120	Ilves	53	9	18	27	24	-20
Anatoli Golyshev	LW/RW	2016 round 4 #95	Avtomobilist Yekaterinburg	40	18	13	31	16	10
			* KHL Playoffs	6	2	1	3	4	2
Petter Hansson	D	2015 round 7 #202	Södertälje SK	50	1	2	3	12	-3
			*Allsvenskan Qualification	5	0	1	1	2	-1

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Goalies

PLAYER	DRAFT POS.	TEAM	LEAGUE	GP	GAA	SV%
Ilya Sorokin	2014 round 3 #78	CSKA Moskva	KHL	37	1.59	.931
		OAR (Russia)	OG	1	3.00	.857
		* KHL Playoffs	KHL:	6	.17	.992
+ Linus Söderström	2014 round 4 #95	HV71	SHL	14	2.79	.894
Eamon McAdam	2013 round 3 #70	Worcester Railers	ECHL	29	2.84	.910
		* Bridgeport Sound Tigers	AHL	5	2.51	.908
Christopher Gibson	Acq. via Trade	Bridgeport Sound Tigers	AHL	33	2.31	.909
		* New York Islanders	NHL	4	3.01	.927
Kristers Gudlevskis	Acq. via Trade	Bridgeport Sound Tigers	AHL	32	2.76	.898

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[Sidney the Kidney]

Is Ho-Sang not performing in BP since his demotion? His stats look very underwhelming for a guy who is supposed to be as high-end offense as he is. Most similar prospects are hovering around a point per game in the AHL who project to be the same type of player.

 

[danteipp]

Assuming we resign Lee that could be two good goal scorers on the left side in our top six.

Hey, I think we have three strong players on the left side... don't forget Ladd!

 

[Jester9881]

Is Ho-Sang not performing in BP since his demotion? His stats look very underwhelming for a guy who is supposed to be as high-end offense as he is. Most similar prospects are hovering around a point per game in the AHL who project to be the same type of player.

I haven't watched many BP games, but my guess is he's getting the Strome treatment. He will never be good enough defensively, so lets destroy the single part of his game that made him a promising young player worthy of taking in the first round. He will be a complete basket case by the time Snow trades him next year for a 4th round pick.

 

[doublechili]

Had the chance to watch Cockerill a couple times in the Hockey East playoffs/championship game. I wasn't sure what team had his rights but immediately had to check after watching him play. Has speed to burn and pretty decent hands to go with it. Competes really hard as well.

I will fall into the comparison trap - maybe Cockerill can turn into a Carl Hagelin.

 

[Glory Days]

Is Ho-Sang not performing in BP since his demotion? His stats look very underwhelming for a guy who is supposed to be as high-end offense as he is. Most similar prospects are hovering around a point per game in the AHL who project to be the same type of player.

He is primarily a play maker and there is literally no one to pass the puck to in Bridgeport. The team is lacking in offensive prospects and doesn't have veteran AHL players of any consequence on offense. I am not worried about his offense as long as he is working on the rest of his game.

 

[Phenomenon]

A rumour says that Otto Koivula has signed a contract with Isles. His skating is still an issue and he is therefore not ready for NHL. One more year in Finland, one year in AHL and then in NHL, if everything goes great with his development...

 

[Kevin27NYI]

A rumour says that Otto Koivula has signed a contract with Isles. His skating is still an issue and he is therefore not ready for NHL. One more year in Finland, one year in AHL and then in NHL, if everything goes great with his development...

Would be slow but fine with me, I heard a story a while ago that only recently has he taken the offseason seriously for training. Something about watching the work Barkov put in, anyway, hope he continues taking it seriously and then can improve his skating

 

[seafoam]

A rumour says that Otto Koivula has signed a contract with Isles. His skating is still an issue and he is therefore not ready for NHL. One more year in Finland, one year in AHL and then in NHL, if everything goes great with his development...

Not a rumor anymore

 

[PelleLindbergh]

what's your estimate time frame for Bellows to make the big club? see him as a future winger to Barzal?

 

[CREW99AW]

what's your estimate time frame for Bellows to make the big club? see him as a future winger to Barzal?

He has said he expects to be on the isles roster next season. I expect it will come down to how he does in training camp. A strong camp and he sticks. I have not heard of any big weaknesses that may need ahl icetime to work on.

 

[SI90]

what's your estimate time frame for Bellows to make the big club? see him as a future winger to Barzal?

I expect him to be a full time winger in the NHL 2-3 years from now.

Next year I think he spends the majority of the year in the AHL and maybe gets a cup of coffee here and there.

 

[seafoam]

what's your estimate time frame for Bellows to make the big club? see him as a future winger to Barzal?

He could make the team next year, but I think it depends more on whether Tavares is staying, and whether will Anthony Beauvillier will be a center or winger going forward.

Obviously if he plays lights out, he can absolutely force himself onto the team, but NYI does have depth on LW (Lee/Beauvillier/Ladd/etc.) and NYI isn’t afraid to send their prospects to the AHL if they aren’t playing up to par on the defensive side of the puck (which is ironic because they are so bad defensively).

 

[saintunspecified]

I really hope Bellows plays in the AHL all next year. Seems to me that he's the kind of player on the brink of being a 2nd line winger or a bottom-6 grinder. Rushing him makes the latter more likely

 

[Riseonfire]

I really hope Bellows plays in the AHL all next year. Seems to me that he's the kind of player on the brink of being a 2nd line winger or a bottom-6 grinder. Rushing him makes the latter more likely

I know that's regarded as the 'safer' route, but is there ANY data to support that? Or is this (like I think it is) just another group think thing?

Some players need the coaching, some need a challenge. Really hard to saw which way is correct until it's too late.

 

[saintunspecified]

I know that's regarded as the 'safer' route, but is there ANY data to support that? Or is this (like I think it is) just another group think thing?

Some players need the coaching, some need a challenge. Really hard to saw which way is correct until it's too late.

I mean, I'm not a group, but this is based on stuff people who know more about hockey than I do say. Which is like 95% of this site.

 

[DarkHorse2]

Aho back to Bport. Good.

 

[Glory Days]

I've often wondered why a number USNTDP kids sometimes don't get drafted or at least don't get drafted until late.

Cockerill isn't big, but if you've got speed to kill and you spend time in the program showing that you can play a team game and do all the little things a team needs from its lower line players, then what's not to like?

For a 7th rounder, he's had a lovely little pure freshman season. I'm really curious to see what he can do next year.

Pronman had some nice things to say about him in his latest mailbag.

"One of my favorites in last year’s draft. Really quick, works hard and has skill, too."