Speculation: Is Lou really all that great.

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  1. FreeBird

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    Unfortunately the playoffs call for Courage, and hitting is required and being hit is also a mandate, Rielly has proven to be just another skill guy who will not confront the foe. Dermott is the only D we have who has shown courage to compete. I'd take one Dermott for 5 Rielly's, in fact Dermott is the only D we have that will and can be counted on to show up come Playoff time.
     
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    Plays in his own End, which is mandatory in the Playoffs.
     
  3. LeafFever

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    It amazes me how Rielly can play so good last season for 6 games and everyone has forgotten it. 2 Playoff games this year? He sucks.
    If you change your opinion on him that fast, will you do it later tonight if he plays great? You are using such a small sample size.
     
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    Rielly faces tougher matchups and his advanced stats are better.
     
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    Could not agree more.

    Matthews is not dominating and not playing well. Maybe the Leafs should play JT the max this summer since Matthews(based on the last two games) is not an elite 1C.
     
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    It’s not just with Rielly some folks are turning on a few players based on these two games (though if the Leafs win tonight I suspect they’ll all quite down)
     
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    I know it's annoying. I find it's happening more and more with hockey fans. that's why I was really confused why so many turned on Mitch Marner after his bad start. He had 61 points as a rookie and no one seemed to recall that.
    If you turn on a player so fast, you'll just flip your opinion again if that player has a good couple of games.
     
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    It just doesn't get any better than this. Really! Here we go folks asinine at its best. Honestly, if the mods wish to ban me for calling out stupidity, well, here I am.
     
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    People still think you need "Grit" to win in the playoffs. Biggest crap ever. You need your best players to play at their best whichis not happening.
    Phil Kessel is a playoff beast. Phil Kessel people.
     
  10. lifelonghockeyfan

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    No I don't think JVR, Komarov or Bozak should be resigned, mostly because of long term cap implications. But that what good organizations do, let expensive guys leave and fill with younger cheaper guys.
    The three guys, especially JVR might have really hurt their UFA value. by their play in the playoffs. Still I don't think they should have traded at TDL for futures. He gotta give your other players and fans hope for the playoffs. Leafs might have been a lot better against Tampa in the first round.
     
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    Grit comes from within. You either have it, or you don't.
     
  12. Stephen

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    To date, the strength of the rebuild seems to be amateur scouting, while pro scouting has been relatively weak.

    While Marleau, Hainsey have generally been good, whomever is running pro scouting seems to be going with an out of date media guide when it comes to potential players: Plekanec, Moore, Boyle, McElhinney come to mind.
     
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    You’re ****ting on McElhinney?
     
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    I think he's meh. I mean if in two years you can't find a better dman than Polak then there's a problem. He also hasn't added a top 3 or 4 dman, I know there's Hainsey but the guy is a 36 year old and worked better than expected but you can't expect that to keep lasting. He also hasn't really bolstered the bottom six outside of prospects, hasn't brought in any guy that can be a mainstay because Moore/Plekanec/Boyle are all temporary and not that great to begin with

    With that said, he's not the worse either, certain other GMs would've screwed it up bad.
     
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    He could, but would you be happy giving up a top prospect and a 1st? Or maybe one of Marner and Nylander? That's what other GMs will want...they know our weakness and will try to exploit us in a trade for a dman...hey, Chiarelli traded Hall for Larsson...you think Lou should do the same? Lou is an intelligent, savvy and sly veteran GM...he is already in the Hockey Hall of Fame.
     
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    I've read the bolded a few times on this site, and I have to say there seems to be a disconnect with reality. No GM trades their leading goal scorer when their team finishes with 100+ points (or at the TDL was sitting very pretty). Sure the Leafs are not likely winning the cup, but for those players who busted their asses all year, trading away a guy like JVR would be a slap in the face.

    It's one thing if you are a team that just barely squeaked in and was in-out all season (ie. St.L/Stasny) but that was not the situation at all here.

    I can understand not trading assets for Plekanec, but trading away your leading scorer, never going to happen. I don't care who your GM is.
     
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    You don't have to move him for picks, a trade for an RHD or a C would have been welcome.
     
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    And do another JvR to Luke Schenn trade? No thanks. What if no one was willing to trade quality RHD or C for JvR?
     
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    yup no one trades an equivalent d/c for a winger and the people *****ing about not adding a quality d/c would in no way want to give up the assets needed to acquire one
     
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    I can't see this happening.

    Obviously a non playoff team is not going to trade for an expiring contract, and I cant see a playoff team trading away a 1C or 2C for a winger on an expiring contract. Same thing goes for a RHD, unless you would be OK settling for a third pairing guy, teams aren't moving top 4 D-men at the TDL for wingers on expiring contracts.

    Look what Edmonton had to move for Adam Larson, what do you think you could have gotten for JVR?
     
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    What, no talk about how Lou fleeced Montreal? ;)
     
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    Uh, yes he is and you should probably go into the witness relocation program, Lou don't mess around... (speaking in a whisper) .... he makes people disappear.
     
  23. LeafFever

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    Yes! Thank you. It's delusional to expect that.
     
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    You shut your mouth when you talk about sweet Lou Lamoreillo!
     
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    hey we won, shouldnt we be making a new thread already about how great lou is? i thought thats how things worked here :naughty::sarcasm:
     
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