Speculation: Is Lou really all that great.

Discussion in 'Toronto Maple Leafs' started by stickty111, Apr 15, 2018.

  1. Krazy

    Krazy Registered User

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    Honestly no. The capologist negotiated contracts,????? Really???
     
  2. Tonka

    Tonka 9.5%?

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    Yes, 4 goals on 6 shots is just the D's fault.
     
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    Coachcorner Senor Martinez

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    What team was likely to pay the price for Jvr? Just wonderin', you know,perhaps it was put out there but the returns weren't what you think they could've got,specifically for the reasons you don't
    like him!
     
  5. thewave

    thewave Nazem Kadri #1 Fan

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    It was said 3 weeks prior to the TDL JVR is not available. That was public.
     
  6. Leafs at Knight

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    No one has really made a case for why Lou is so great. The Kadri and Rielly contracts are good and the Andersen trade was good but other than that ..? Even our last draft wasn't good, and I know thats on our scouting staff too.
     
  7. Raym11

    Raym11 Phaneuf sucks

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    ? 50 points for 5 mil is a disappointment? He literally did have a breakout season
     
  8. hector morrison

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    Yes, he did have a decent year. Still don't see him as a #1,ever!
     
  9. BlueBaron

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    Saying our last draft was bad is premature and a tad ridiculous.

    There is no need for a case, the results speak for themselves. We were the 6th best team 2 seasons after being last. We set all kind of records in the last 2 years.

    Because a bunch of armchair GM's do not agree with all his moves does not mean the moves are wrong.

    Is he perfect? No one is.

    Has he brought stability and put us in the right direction.

    No question.

    Are many people going to be level headed and objective during these emotional times? Probably not.
     
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  10. LeafFever

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    How do you know?
     
  11. LeafFever

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    What? You think he should be making less than 5 million? The guy had a terrific, breakthrough season.
     
  12. djdev

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    lol @ blaming lou for drafting, especially before a year has even passed...reaching at straws now
     
  13. hector morrison

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    Won't argue the value aspect, its there, high scoring offence leads to points for defencemen, doesn't tell the whole story. Are you happy with his performance in the last two games? I'm not! At any price!
     
  14. LeafFever

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    But all his advanced stats were very good.
    What I see is you judging everything about him based on 2 games. If we did that about everyone we'd think we had no talent.
     
  15. hector morrison

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    Just for the record ,been watching him since he was in junior, was relatively happy the Leafs took him. He came in too young ,but there was upside,namely his skating,learning positional play,leaning about the opposition, etc. Not much of a shot,not physical. Became obvious he would never be a #1.
    So, no I am not judging on his last 2 games,but I'm not ignoring them either! He hasn't been good!
    Would you rather have Dumda or Trouba right now? I would. Maybe even a couple others from his draft class.
     
  16. LeafFever

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    Neither. Rielly is better. I don't panic after 2 games. Rielly was better than both all year.
     
  17. hector morrison

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    Agree to disagree,then! Probably could not get either in a straight swap!
     
  18. LeafFever

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    Oh please. Look at Rielly's stats this season. The "Trouba is better" you could get away with last year maybe.
     
  19. hector morrison

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    I am looking at how they play ,not stats! Stats can be and often are misleading. I think the Leafs need a Trouba or Dumba or other similar type D man more than Reilly.
     
  20. lifelonghockeyfan

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    So all teams that probably aren't going to win the Cup should trade all their UFAs by TDL? Each team has about 3 upcoming UFAs, so you are saying about 75 UFAs should be traded to the 6 teams that have a shot at the Cup.
     
  21. LeafFever

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    Kadri wasn't horrible at all, he just had a lower than usual shooting %. I was still very surprised Kadri signed that deal.
     
  22. LeafFever

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    You've been on the main board too much. Rielly is a #1 D. What has Trouba done to show he is better?
     
  23. stickty111

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    Trouba has shown his fans are better at pretending that he is better then Rielly.
     
  24. KeonHorton

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    I get your point. But conversely, are we going to be able to fill roster weaknesses through UFA acquisitions? If you think its better to hang on soon-to-be vets like JVR (Bozak, etc.) that is fine, but you can't have it both ways. Its (UFA acquisitions) either a good method, or it isn't. If it isn't good for other teams, then it isn't magically going to be good for us.
     
  25. LeafFever

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    It seems like players on other teams never have to prove they are better. Did you know Sebastien Aho is better than Marner? He's never had as good a season, but he's better...
     

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