Is babcock good with young talent?

[DDRhockey]

Babcock didnt exactly coach any young promesing prospects in detroit so is he really the right coach for leafs young guys?

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[Braunbaer]

Maybe provide your own point of view first?!

 

[DDRhockey]

Maybe provide your own point of view first?!

I am not sure he is the guy to develop marner, nylander matthews.

 

[Kamiccolo]

Omfg. We get told that the Leafs are not a contender all year and now that they look like they won't win the cup suddenly the players must all suck and the coach is trash and all this. How about the teams best players are 21 and younger?

 

[Spirit of 67]

JFC.

Just stop.

 

[LeafFever]

Babcock didnt exactly coach any young promesing prospects in detroit so is he really the right coach for leafs young guys?

So you recall his years with Detroit but have already forgotten last season with Toronto? The Leafs litterally under Babcock had the best group of rookies of any NHL team in decades. They were the first team since the Oilers in 81 to have 3 60 point rookies. Connor Brown was the 4th best rookie forward and he still had 20 goals.
If the series is 2-2, do you even make this thread?
Babcock has been terrific with the young players, They've all developed greatly.

 

[Warden of the North]

Babcock didnt exactly coach any young promesing prospects in detroit so is he really the right coach for leafs young guys?

Yes?

Hfboards told us that Marner and Nylander were overrated and hes sure as hell got a lot out of those two.

Not to mention Matthews, Brown, Hyman, Rielly, and Dermott.

Babcocks faults lie in loyalty to veterans.

 

[LeafFever]

Omfg. We get told that the Leafs are not a contender all year and now that they look like they won't win the cup suddenly the players must all suck and the coach is trash and all this. How about the teams best players are 21 and younger?

I am amazed how people change all their opinions for no reason whatsoever.
Oh my god they are down against Boston which majority predicted. Fire the coach!

 

[LeafFever]

Yes?

Hfboards told us that Marner and Nylander were overrated and hes sure as hell got a lot out of those two.

Not to mention Matthews, Brown, Hyman, Rielly, and Dermott.

I am not sure he is the guy to develop marner, nylander matthews.

Marner has been amazing. Who could get more out of Mitch Marner? LOL. He's been their best player in this series and was as good as anyone in the second half of the season.

 

[Filatov2Kovalev2Bonk]

I am not sure he is the guy to develop marner, nylander matthews.

Matthews has been one of the best even-strength point producers since his entry in the league. He's also good defensively. He got there with very few cookies on the powerplay.
Marner has started using his physical assets a ton more.
Nylander has been a slower climb, but not everyone learns the same. He's still a lethal weapon.

The issue isn't really youth with Babcock, but love of guys like Komarov, Martin (thankfully no longer player), Polak, etc. The Leafs-Bruins series should arguable be 2-2, but it isn't and it's do or die now for Canada's non-Senators future.

 

[LeafFever]

Babcock does a very good job of managing young players' ice-time and slowly bringing them along. With veterans? Nope. That's the issue. He overplays them badly and relies on them far too much. The TOI of Hainsy was always going to bite them. Leaf fans were mentioining this before Christmas.
Mitch Marner has been incredible. Let's not forget that.

 

[Scott Stevens]

Omfg. We get told that the Leafs are not a contender all year and now that they look like they won't win the cup suddenly the players must all suck and the coach is trash and all this. How about the teams best players are 21 and younger?

If you were told all that they aren’t a contender, and then they don’t contend, were people wrong?

 

[LeafFever]

Modern NHl fans have the attention span of a goldfish.

 

[Spirit of 67]

Babcock does a very good job of managing young players' ice-time and slowly bringing them along. With veterans? Nope. That's the issue. He overplays them badly and relies on them far too much. The TOI of Hainsy was always going to bite them. Leaf fans were mentioining this before Christmas.
Mitch Marner has been incredible. Let's not forget that.

SMH.

So he's doing a good job of managing young players ice time but over playing the vets? If the young players aren't playing, who else goes on the ice?

 

[LeafFever]

SMH.

So he's doing a good job of managing young players ice time but over playing the vets? If the young players aren't playing, who else goes on the ice?

I do see the young players playing, don't you?
What young players has been badly developed by Babcock? I'm not crazy about the Leivo situation, but he's never going to be a top guy.

 

[Kamiccolo]

If you were told all that they aren’t a contender, and then they don’t contend, were people wrong?

That's the point.. How can people sit there and tell Leaf fans all year how their team won't contend and can't match up against certain teams and then when that happens flip flop and start acting like there is something wrong with the team.. No. They are just not there yet. Stop these bashing posts on 21 year olds. Stop bashing the coaching. Stop bashing the fan base.

Leafs are on their way. It's just funny seeing the narrative shift to allow the most bashing.

 

[Scott Stevens]

That's the point.. How can people sit there and tell Leaf fans all year how their team won't win contend and can't match up against certain teams and then when that happens flip flop and start acting like there is something wrong with the team.. No. They are just not there yet. Stop these bashing posts on 21 year olds. Stop bashing the coaching. Stop bashing the fan base.

Leafs are on their way. It's just funny seeing the narrative shift to allow the most bashing.

Oh ok. I see what you are saying now.

 

[LeafFever]

The Leafs will be better next sesason. Mitch Marner is a stud. He'll only get better.
HF told Leaf fans they overrated him. Does HF still believe that?

 

[Hunter368]

Yes Babs is good developing good young players into good NHL players.

 

[goblin3]

Yes?

Hfboards told us that Marner and Nylander were overrated and hes sure as hell got a lot out of those two.

Not to mention Matthews, Brown, Hyman, Rielly, and Dermott.

Babcocks faults lie in loyalty to veterans.

After hearing the whole season about how Matthews (and the other young guys) will carry the Leafs to be a contender. Sure seems like they were overrated.

 

[Mick Riddleton]

If you were told all that they aren’t a contender, and then they don’t contend, were people wrong?

We were all told leaf have the better depth, speed, regular season dominance and picked at the start of the year to be one/two and maybe 1st over Tampa mostly by their own fans. Now the narrative has changed that they are out coached and being beat by better depth. Canadian media props up teams and loves the over hype and fans of those teams fall for it every time. Babcock reminds me of Julien and needs a veteran team with already polished players. There is not Lidstrom or Datysuk to make him look good presently. We shall see if he can deliver but with that salary he better.

 

[LeafFever]

We were all told leaf have the better depth, speed, regular season dominance and picked at the start of the year to be one/two and maybe 1st over Tampa mostly by their own fans. Now the narrative has changed that they are out coached and being beat by better depth. Canadian media props up teams and loves the over hype and fans of those teams fall for it every time.

But the facts and statistics after 82 games proved Leaf fans were right. LOL. The depth is fantastic.

 

[Mick Riddleton]

But the facts and statistics after 82 games proved Leaf fans were right. LOL. The depth is fantastic.

Fact is they said Boston had no depth compared to them, facts are Cassidy did a much better job all year with depth with the ridiculous number of injuries to key players

 

[LeafFever]

Fact is they said Boston had no depth compared to them, facts are Cassidy did a much better job all year with depth with the ridiculous number of injuries to key players

No one said that at all. They said Toronto had better depth and provided all stats and facts after 82 games which proved them right.

 

[LeafFever]

I love how everyone still believes the myth the National media favours and loves the Leafs. Are people not aware everyone on TSN/SN picked Boston and the 2013 Leafs collapse was the most covered story? LOL. I am always amazed the actual content of those stations are ignored in favour of the untrue myth.
The pain of that 2013 serie shown over and over and Boston picked to beat the Leafs. Oh my, will thi sLeaf love ever end? LOL>