Irving or Varlamov

[moglesby]

Who would you rather have...and why would you rather have them?

Leland Irving or Semem Varlamov?

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[EagleBelfour]

Leland Irving

 

[Twist and Shout]

I'd take Leland ..

 

[Fedz]

Varlamov.

 

[Geogaddi]

gimme Varlamov,

Bernier

Varlamov
Irving

 

[EagleBelfour]

gimme Varlamov,

Bernier

Varlamov
Irving

Bernier

Helenius
Irving

Varlamov

 

[hockeyfan125]

Irving is the best goalie from the 06 draft, and I think he will emerge as the best in a few years as well.

 

[Kaizer]

FYI, I have never seen more athlectic young goalie with better reaction than Varlamov.

 

[bfire]

^yep, he's real good..could turn some heads

 

[Thundermare]

FYI, I have never seen more athlectic young goalie with better reaction than Varlamov.

Have you seen Bernier... cause That's exactly how I would describe him

Edit: between the two I'd probably take Varlamov

 

[HansonBro]

FYI, I have never seen more athlectic young goalie with better reaction than Varlamov.

agreed

 

[HansonBro]

is my avatar showing to you guys??? and why is rosie a pre-defined avatar as well?

 

[X-SHARKIE]

You can't go wrong with either Varlamov or Irving. I grabbed both in the second round of my keeper league despite not having a need for a young goalie... I took Irving first though.

 

[fong p88]

irving is a safer pick i feel and i see varlamov as being a khabibulin type, not the same style but he will have the talent of khabibulin but will probably be as incosistent as him, id go with leland

 

[Vincent_TheGreat]

Bernier

Helenius


Varlamov
Irving

 

[EagleBelfour]

the four could emerge as the best goaltender of the draft. They're really above the other goaltenders taken in this year draft.

 

[francklem]

What are you thinking of Enroth ?

 

[Porn*]

Bernier

Helenius


Varlamov
Irving

I'd make it...

Helenius
Bernier

Varlamov
Irving

:p

 

[Vincent_TheGreat]

I'm just not very high on Helenius right now, we will see though.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

bernier then varlamov

but bernier bernier bernier is gonna be good good good

 

[The Viking Fury]

As a caps fan, I'm going to have to say Varlamov. But I havent seen any clips of Irving so this is doubly biased. I will say that in the varlamov clip he looked very quick, seemed to have a nice glovehand, and looked like he reacted well.

But... I don't know what to look for when watching scouting videos, let alone a goalie (a position i've never played). SO if any of you want to give me tips on what to watch for goalies, or in general that'd be great.

In conclusion, this post has the dreaded trifecta:
1) Homer bias
2) Only seeing one side of the argument
3) Not knowing what I'm doing.

Maybe just disregard it all together

 

[X-SHARKIE]

After watching all four over a half dozen times each, I came to the following conclusion... You can't go wrong with either of the four, as they could all become bonafide starting goalies in the NHL.. or they could all struggle to gain their spot in the NHL.

A break down on the

Pure Athleticism: Varlamov, Helenius, Bernier, Irving

Pure Reflexes: Varlamov, Irving, Helenius, Bernier

Mental Game, anticipation ect: Leland Irving, Helenius, Bernier, Varlamov

Positioning: Bernier, Helenius, Irving, Varlamov

Rebound Control: Helenius,Bernier,Irving,Varlamov (all are very close and have superb rebound control.)

Legs: Riku Helenius, Varlamov, Bernier, Irving

Glove: Varlamov, Helenius, Irving, Bernier

Blocker: Irving, Varlamov, Helenius, Bernier

First Save: Helenius, Bernier, Varlamov, Irving

Second Save: Varlamov, Irving, Helenius, Bernier

Stickhandling/ Passing, playing the puck: Bernier, Irving, Helenius, Varlamov

They all have the ability to steal a game, I like them all and in the end the gap between all four is very very slim.

 

[moglesby]

After watching all four over a half dozen times each...

Where did you find videos for Irving and Helenius? I would love to see them! They are not available on the "2006 Prospect Videos" thread.

 

[HSHS]

After watching all four over a half dozen times each, I came to the following conclusion... You can't go wrong with either of the four, as they could all become bonafide starting goalies in the NHL.. or they could all struggle to gain their spot in the NHL.

A break down on the

Pure Athleticism: Varlamov, Helenius, Bernier, Irving

Pure Reflexes: Varlamov, Irving, Helenius, Bernier

Mental Game, anticipation ect: Leland Irving, Helenius, Bernier, Varlamov

Positioning: Bernier, Helenius, Irving, Varlamov

Rebound Control: Helenius,Bernier,Irving,Varlamov (all are very close and have superb rebound control.)

Legs: Riku Helenius, Varlamov, Bernier, Irving

Glove: Varlamov, Helenius, Irving, Bernier

Blocker: Irving, Varlamov, Helenius, Bernier

First Save: Helenius, Bernier, Varlamov, Irving

Second Save: Varlamov, Irving, Helenius, Bernier

Stickhandling/ Passing, playing the puck: Bernier, Irving, Helenius, Varlamov

They all have the ability to steal a game, I like them all and in the end the gap between all four is very very slim.

So in your eyes Varlamov's "weakneses" are things that can be taught?? Maybe that's why Prior's drooling over working with him?

 

[Redwingsfan]

the reason why most of you pick irving over varlamov is because you have probably not seen varlamov play. well i have and i must say that i think he will be one of the best goalies in the nhl and he is clearly the best goalie in this draft.