In retrospect: who won the 2003, 2004 and 2005 drafts?

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  1. Mandala

    Mandala Registered User

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    With all the controversy surrounding this 2007 draft, it becomes clear that it takes at least two to three years to judge the choice of most picks. So how would you judge the 2003, 2004 or 2005 first round picks of your team?

    Are they ready for the NHL? Will they be forever AHL level players?

    As of my team, the Habs here are the results:

    2003

    Andrei Kostitsyn, 1rst round, 10th overall

    Still an AHL player. Did not prove yet that he can play regularly with the Habs. Still a prospect four years after being picked.

    2004

    Kyle Chipchura, 1rst round, 18th overall

    Still plays in the AHL, just won the Calder Cup, said to have the potential to play Center on our third line. For now still a prospect.

    2005

    Carey Price, 1rst round, 5th overall

    Moved with our AHL club at the end of the season and was a good reason that Hamilton won the Calder Cup. Might or might play with the Habs next season. My best guess: he will join the club this year.

    So as you can see none of our first picks from 2003-2005 are playing with the Habs at the moment.

    How about your past 1rst round picks?
     
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  2. Warm Cookies

    Warm Cookies Return of the Matt

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    I'd venture to say my Pens did alright in '03, '04, and '05.
     
  3. luckoftheduck

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    Anaheim Ducks:
    2003
    Ryan Getzlaf 1st round 19th overall: Quickly developing into a dominant center in the NHL...right now forced to center our 2nd 1st line as we now appear to have two equally good scoring lines. Projects as a franchise center and an adept two way player.
    Corey Perry 1st Round 28 overall: Needs to find more consistency at the NHL level, but had a spectacular playoffs(or at least for him). Projects as a 1st line right wing but again is stuck with Getzlaf(they are the twins and they will always play together)
    2004:
    Ladislav Smid 1st Round 9th overall: Traded to the Edmonton Oilers as part of the Pronger deal, Smid should be at least a top-4 d-man if not a top pairing d-man, but doesn't provide much offensively.
    2005:
    Bobby Ryan, 1st Round 2nd overall: Still a project and we're doing what we said we would do with him, which is take it slow. He should spend his first full pro season in the AHL with possible sporadic callups and should be a star in the AHL....one more year of seasoning and then he can go for the Calder.
     
  4. bleuer

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    as for the Ducks


    2003
    Ryan Getzlaf, 19th
    Corey Perry, 28th

    Well...great picks. Both had huge impacts this year and the Penner-Getzlaf-Perry was one of the reasons we won the cup. Getzlaf looks like a future captain for our team...

    2004
    Ladislav Smid, 9th

    Was traded in the Pronger deal. Never played for the Ducks, but seems to do good in Edmonton

    2005
    Bobby Ryan, 1 place behind the jackpot

    Will play in the AHL next season, had a good, but not outstanding season in the OHL this year. Needs another year in the minors to adapt to the big boys...
     
  5. Besides the Penguins... Colorado got Wolski in 2004 and Stastny in 2005
     
  6. weaponomega

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    The Sharks did ridiculously well in 03.

    My B's did well with Stuart who should be a regular in 07-08 and Patrice Bergeron.
     
  7. Dave is a killer

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    Preds did really well in '03 drafting Shea Weber, Ryan Suter & Kevin Klein; '04 we got our own first pure scoring forward ever in the form of Alexander Radulov; '05 Parent, Franson, Hornqvist (nice steal there scouting department) & O'Reilly
     
  8. Meichel Kane

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    Sabres

    2003:
    Vanek (5)

    2004:
    Stafford (13)

    2005:
    Zagrapan (13)

    If you want to go beyond the first round, Hejda (106 in 03), Paetsch (202 in 03), Sekera (71 in 04), Kaleta (176 in 04), Card (241 in 04), and Dennis (182 in 05) all have played in the NHL. Gerbe (142 in 05) was great in the NCAA tournament this past year.
     
  9. Levitate

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    As a Rangers fan, can I just pretend that the 2003 draft didn't happen?

    They did awesome in 2005 though
     
  10. Optimist*

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    SJ in 03 is just sickening.... Michelak, Bernier, Hennessy, Carle and Pavelski in 7th round :handclap:
     
  11. Juni

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    Never really seen how a team can 'win' at a draft - they can draft badly but surely if you draft well you're doing your job, and most teams will come out of a draft with at least one NHLer of note, which is success in itself.
     
  12. The Mighty Duck Man

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    It's hard to top what the Ducks added in those three years. In 2003, they added two of their best young forwards, and two of their leading scorers in the 2007 playoffs. In 2004, they added a potential top-pairing d-man, who already is quite good, but, more importantly, a key piece in the Pronger deal. In 2005, they added their top prospect, Bobby Ryan, who is a potential top-line power forward.

    Now, some would rather have MAF, Malkin and Crosby, but, without three of those guys being drafted to us, the Cup isn't in Anaheim right now. I like that part.
     
  13. bergy37*

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    in know the 2006 draft isnt on this thread but the bruins did outstanding. Kessel(NHL regular) Lucic(memorial cup MVP) Marchand(MVP for Val dor and 1st liner on team Canada WJC) and bodnarchuk(an outstanding Dman that was co MVP with Jakub Voracek on Halifax) all one day will be NHL regulars
     
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    2005:
    Crosby
    Letang

    2004:
    Malkin
    Goligoski
    David Brown


    2003:
    Fleury
    Ryan Stone
    Jonathan Filewich
    Daniel Carcillo (traded for George Laraque)

    It was not just Fleury, Malkin and Crosby those years. That is not to say that others, including the Ducks did not do well also.
     
  15. Frolov 6'3

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    As for the Kings:

    2003
    13 Dustin Brown, okay pick, better options were available.
    26 Brian Boyle, might be with the big club this season as forward or defenseman. He's huge.
    27 Jeff Tambellini, traded already to the Islanders, still very raw.

    2004
    11 Lauri Tukonen, very injury prone but played a few games for the Kings already. Might not become the player he was projected to be but "a sure" 3rd liner at least.

    2005
    11 Anze Kopitar, nothing need to be said by hearing is name.
     
  16. Stuy

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    2003
    14 D Brent Seabrook
    52 G Corey Crawford
    151 D Lasse Kukkonen
    211 G Mike Brodeur
    245 D Dustin Byfuglien

    2004
    3 D Cam Barker
    32 C David Bolland
    41 L Bryan Bickell
    68 L Adam Berti
    196 C Petri Kontiola
    214 R Troy Brouwer

    2005
    7 R Jack Skille
    43 R Michael Blunden
    54 R Dan Bertram
    68 C Evan Brophey
    108 D Niklas Hjalmarsson
    113 C Nathan Davis
     
  17. puck_08

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    2003:
    Phaneuf (9).. that's pretty much it for that year.

    2004:
    Dustin Boyd (98) did well in the AHL this year, looks like he should be able to take the next step.
    Brandon Prust (70) did alright in his callups last year.. 3rd line potential

    2005:
    Matt Pelech (26) Who knows, should be a good Dman, but could easily bust.
    Dan Ryder (74) good offensive potential..

    All in all, very average.
     
  18. Mandala

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    "2003
    14 D Brent Seabrook
    52 G Corey Crawford
    151 D Lasse Kukkonen
    211 G Mike Brodeur
    245 D Dustin Byfuglien

    2004
    3 D Cam Barker
    32 C David Bolland
    41 L Bryan Bickell
    68 L Adam Berti
    196 C Petri Kontiola
    214 R Troy Brouwer

    2005
    7 R Jack Skille
    43 R Michael Blunden
    54 R Dan Bertram
    68 C Evan Brophey
    108 D Niklas Hjalmarsson
    113 C Nathan Davis"

    Chicago Blackhawks draft picks. I had to check since I did not know them.
     
  19. arin1

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    If you're just talking first rounders...
    Wings have Kindl in '05; who's looking good.
    Otherwise there's Franzen, Howard, Quincey, Ryno, Helm, Abdelkader, & McGrath who look extremely promising.
     
  20. Blades of Glory

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    As some have said, 2003 was a fairly good year for the Sharks. :sarcasm:

    Michalek
    Bernier
    Carle
    Pavelski
     
  21. Yertle The Turtle

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    For the Flyers....

    2003 - They made out really well
    11 C Jeff Carter
    24 C Mike Richards
    81 R Stefan Ruzicka
    85 D Alexandre Picard
    87 F Ryan Potulny

    2004- not so great, only one player that has played an NHL game and no real solid prospects
    286 L Triston Grant

    2005- Not to bad, two prospects that could turn into good players in the NHL
    29 R Steve Downie
    91 D Oskars Bartulis


    I would say that the 2003 and 2005 drafts are successful at this point, but the 2004 turned out bad, although we did not have a pick until the third round.
     
  22. Mandala

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    For this thread I think it is best to limit it to:


    1) Years 2003, 2004 and 2005

    2) Only 1rst round pick


    And please specify for which team these drafts belong!

    As of now, it seems that Pittsburgh, San Jose and Anaheim did pretty well.
     
  23. It Kills Me

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    Counting only the first round isn't really that fair . Teams IMO that get the best players out of a draft get them in teh later rounds .

    Otherwise Pittsburgh , and Washington would win for having early picks .
     
  24. The Mighty Duck Man

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    The OP asked about first rounders in those years, I believe. If not, then, during those years, the Ducks also added Shane O'Brien, who was great in his short tenure as a Duck, netted us our first two picks this year, and is going to be a mainstay in Tampa for quite some time, cup-winner Drew Miller, who was a great stopgap for Kunitz when he went down, Tim Brent, who was a good stopgap for Todd Marchant when he went down, Mem-cup winner Brendan Mikkelsson, and our top goalie prospect in JP Levasseur.
     
  25. Mandala

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    Well I am just trying to limit the number of eligible players to help comparisons but I guess it is fair to look at the overall pictures of all players picked during that time period: 2003-2004-2005 in order to give justice to late picks.
     

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