Rumor: Ilya Kovalchuk will be signing a 2-3 year deal with NYR

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  1. Emptyvoid

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    To echo what some other people have said. Some combination of Zucc/Spooner/Namestnikov/Vesey may not be here after the draft. In addition, what if Andersson or Chytil have regular rookie season struggles? Wouldn't be unheard of for rookies to struggle and sometimes needing to take a step back.

    If you're not into it, that's fine. But there is value to having Kovy, even you see that. The scenario you outlined is if none of those players are traded and Andersson/Chytil don't struggle.
     
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    You also forgot Buch
     
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    Kreider-Zib-Buch
    Spooner/Names-Hayes(?)-Fast
    Andersson-Chytil-???

    That’s some sort of format for what I expect the top-9 to resemble come September.

    To me, Kovy slots in there nicely.
     
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    While I very much appreciate the detailed post, I just don't agree with much of of it.
    If you want to sign him for a one year deal, fine.
    Anything more than that is a waste of time IMO..

    I'm not saying he will suck but why even bother signing an overage player who hasn't been in the league for eons anyway and that might "potentially suck"?
    If he does suck, how is that teaching the younger players anything?

    Also, He's 35.
    No player is going to want to be bounced around the league at that age.
    Not happening IMO.
    He's not signing without a NMC.
    No way..
     
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    But, why? What's the point of shipping out young players to make a spot for a much older player that'll be here for a limited amount of time?

    Gorton said Namestnikov is a guy they've been looking at for a while, so I doubt he's going anywhere. Spooner had flashes of being brilliant and both of these guys moved on from teams with Stanley Cup aspirations so it must've been a big shock/letdown for them to be traded.

    Kreider / Zibs / Buch (or Fast who played well with that line)
    Zucc / Hayes / Spooner (Namestnikov)
    Vesey / Chytill / Andersson (Namestnikov)

    Fast

    That's 10/11 top 9 forwards already - I don't think Fast is a 4th line player (3rd at least). If vet Zuccarello is moved you've still got enough and this is if the Rangers stand pat and sign NO ONE. Personally, I'd rather see these young guys develop under a new system/coach together and make the mistakes they're going to make and learn from them instead of sitting in the press box while Kovalchuk takes his retirement skate around the NHL for a couple of years.

    And, honestly, I don't think he's going to sign here anyway if he wants a shot at hardware. We'll see.
     
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    Seems a lot of it depends on how our new potential head coach will use Kovy. If Kovy is used in a way that would stunt a young players growth, I doubt you’d have anyone think that’s a good thing.
     
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    What it REALLY depends upon is how we as fans react when a kid's minutes are suppressed if he's not ready and Kovalchuk plays more as a result. The job is to win and fans tend to crucify coaches for it.
     
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    Today's his birthday, so he can officially be signed, correct?

    Any updates?
     
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    He can officially be SPOKEN WITH. Can't sign until 7/1
     
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    Gorton added, "If we are going out and getting players it's because they are going to have an impact on us going forward, it's not going to be a one-year thing."

    That doesn't sound like a short Kovalchuk deal is going to be a thing.
     
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    Indeed. 2 years.
     
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    Just so people who don't click are clear, the part about a two year deal isn't something Friedman said, but it's an afterward in the article, summing up what we've heard last week.
     
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    Fixed it for you, bb
     
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    Some people in here are hilariously negative.

    Are we rebuilding? Yeah
    Are we the oilers of the last decade? Hell no.

    It's not like we're starting from scratch with ZERO talent. There is a lot of good NHL talent on this team, people seem to forget that due to half the team being injured the whole damn season. Just because we're not bonafide contenders doesn't mean we need to be rebuilding from rock bottom and just be an AHL team for all of next year.
     
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    Regarding your last sentence......We aren’t competing next year period. I think being an AHL team and increasing our odds of drafting Hughes is worth it
     
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    Any news on this front?
     
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    I wonder if they plan to change the PP structure of one of the units to allow Kovalchuk to play at the point.

    If not, Zibanejad's off-wing spot on PP1 may be in jeopardy.
     
  20. Machinehead

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    I would switch to a 2-3 instead of a 1-3-1 and give Shattenkirk two targets.

    Shattenkirk to Zibanejad was effective until it got predictable.
     
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    Three right handed shots isn't great diversity IMO.

    I'd run, assuming no other moves

    -----------Kreider-----------
    Kovalchuk-Andersson/Names-Spooner
    -----------Shattenkirk---------

    ----------Chytil----------
    Zibanejad-Zuccarello-Buchnevich
    ------------DeAngelo/Skjei----------
     
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    The Caps ran three right handed shots when they had Ovy, Green, and Semin.

    It was the best PP in the last 40 years.
     
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    Don't think you can compare MSL to JJ in that situation....MSL had "incentive" to go on that tear in the playoffs -- certainly go them through a series they would have lost...."spirit" was gone by the time Cup Series started.
     
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    The reason Ovy can always be open on the Caps PP from the same spot is because the rest of the power play is also a threat to score, which is what the Rangers need to do to open up that shot. If the only noticeable threat is the guy ready for that one timer then you can easily take it away. If you have to respect some of the other players then it gets a lot tougher
     
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    Which is why I'd at least try the three righties on the same PP, with Zuccarello/Buchnevich feeding them from the LH half boards.
     
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