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Prospect Info: Igor Shestyorkin Part II

Discussion in 'New York Rangers' started by Chief Ranger, Jul 5, 2017.

  1. kovazub94

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    It's only Monday, give it a chance.
     
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    Hahaha thought about that as soon as I typed.

    'In a week' probably would of been a better way to word it.
     
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    A lot of Russian coaches and execs like to hide young talent on lower lines in hopes that they won't come to North America and play in the NHL. It's been a practice for years since players started defecting.
     
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    well WTF is the point of that, if you're going to waste your asset instead of using it, there's no point in preventing an NHL team from taking them. Might as well get 100% of whatever you can
     
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    They hide them when they're 18, 19, 20. Younger. Then when they get a longer commitment the guys get more of a chance. Once they've given that initial commitment and settled into the league, then it is harder for the NHL teams to pluck them out. I don't see it happening as much as it used to though. There's too much scouting, and the players know what's up.
     
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    They've done it with the very best. Check the numbers in the Russian Superleague of all of the best Russian players over the years. You'll see what I'm saying.
     
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    This is all true, scouts caught onto it and they watch the younger players a lot closer now.
     
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    Never thought about it this way. Always figured Russian coaches have even less tolerance for rookie mistakes or patience to develop a trust in youngsters.
     
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    Shest not playing again in game 3. He needs to rip up his contract and come over next season. What a ****ing waste.
     
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    SKA up 3-0 in series.

    Our defenseman, Yegor , also got the least amount of ice time among the EIGHT defesenmen who played.

    Love this coach.
     
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    Didn't he need to give notice like months and months ago if he were to terminate the contract? I'm sure it would have leaked if true.
     
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    Yes, and I agree.
     
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    Pretty sure Rangers can step in and buyout the contract.
     
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    They cannot. A player has to buy out their own contract.
     
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    Sounds like he's doing a great job. Coached the team to a strong regular season and now they are on the cusp of a playoff sweep. Hard to argue with that.
     
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    Hmm interesting. Did this change or has it always been this way?

    I’m sure there are rules in place but it also makes me wonder why Rangers can’t just offer to cover him the money in his signing bonus?
     
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    There's no transfer agreement with Russia. Players have to buy their own way out of their contracts.
     
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    Well, his team is an absolute juggernaut. You could cut half the roster and they'd still easily make the playoffs. It's kind of like a "just stay out of the way" thing. I don't personally see much to be upset about with Shesterkin and Rykov, but the coach isn't infallible and I can understand why others are upset.
     
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    Gotcha. I guess he's comfortable sticking with what has been working, even if it comes at the expense of some talented players.
     
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    A sweep should be expected. Severstal doesn't have more than 4-5 players who could get into SKA's lineup. The fact that they've needed two OT wins of the three is indication they aren't playing as well as they are capable of.
     
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    Lol, yeah such a ****ty coach.. coaching his way to a 3-0 series lead. What an idiot that coach is.
     
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    I'm sure we all think if Shesty plays these three games, they win something like 6-1, 5-0, 2-0
     
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    Really interesting twitter thread here by a respected Russian hockey writer on how the KHL this season (and SKA specifically) has been one massive Putin propaganda tool. Sucks that Shestyorkin and Rykov are in the middle of this, the league is a joke.
     
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    That's nuts if true.

    I've seen Russian posters say that Malamud isn't a very reliable source, but he certainly puts together a solid argument here.
     
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    He’s mostly right. SKA situation was driven by Russian Hockey officials desire to put together a Soviet style Red Machine national team (they actually used this term) for the Olympics that used to be like CSKA that played together in all tournaments, thus developing an incredible awareness of where teammates were. The problem is that in the old days there were more talent to go around to keep things competitive. Not these days and lack of competition creates complacency. For this reason they almost lost the Olympic gold to Germany.
     

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